hi seekliberation, I very much enjoyed reading this.  And though I don't agree 
with all of it, I agree with your main point which I hope I got right:  that 
some liberals are moving away from religion and spirituality and that this is 
not good for either the spiritual or the material aspects of life.

It's quite a conundrum that you present because on one hand liberalism can be 
seen as an offshoot of communism which had from its inception Karl Marx' idea 
that religion is the opiate of the masses.  But on the other hand the 
conservative elements of contemporary society often align with religious 
extremism or at least fundamentalism.  And these groups are also close minded.  
Where is the middle way between these two?  


That middle way just might be the military and other groups who are mainly 
interested in what works.  In the presence of religions that are corrupt and 
those that are extreme, hopefully a rational humanism will emerge that can 
provide moral guidelines resonant with highly developed people.  I'm thinking 
of Maslow's high functioning types.       


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 From: seekliberation <seekliberat...@yahoo.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:21 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Is liberalism becoming anti-spirituality?
 

  
After reading an article about California banning Yoga in schools, it made me 
think about liberalism in America and where it really stands on the subject of 
spirituality and development of consciousness.  I always thought that of all 
states and all locations in America, the first one to welcome any form of Yoga, 
Meditation, and any other form of progressive teaching into its education or 
government programs, California would definitely be the first.  The last 
element of our society that would promote such teachings would clearly be the 
ignorant, conservative, gun-toting military.  Especially the Marine Corps, 
which attracts an exceedingly high percentage of conservatives.  However, much 
to my surprise, in the last decade the entire US military has begun to make 
Yoga mandatory in its exercise program to include the Navy Seals, Marine Spec 
Ops units, the entire Army and many other units.  Moreover, the Marine Corps 
just recently made meditation (not TM,
 but mindfulness meditation) a required portion of any Marine trying out for 
the Marine Corp's Special Operations Command.  So essentially, it's the exact 
opposite of what anyone following spirituality in modern America would expect.  
The people liberals tend to hate the most (anyone from a disciplined or 
structured element of society) seem to be embracing eastern teachings more 
rapidly than groups that are predominantly liberal.  In fact, my experience 
with people in the military is that they tend to be more open minded towards 
those types of teachings than a lot of liberal minded people I know.

This brings me to a conclusion about liberals.  I think they fall into 
different categories.  You have some of the new-age spiritual types, like the 
ones who I remember from my days in Fairfield.  Yes, they are all open-minded 
towards many controversial subjects such as gay marriage, and their views on 
economics leans towards socialism.  But their inquisitive nature regarding 
spirituality indicates to me that they actually are an evolving culture in many 
ways.  But then you have the other type of liberal.  The purely atheist type 
like Bill Maher or Janeane Garafalo.  They are likely to have the same social 
and economic views as the new-age spiritual type of liberal, but they are 
vehemently against spirituality and religion.  This results in a resistance to 
any form of spirituality, and I can assure you that TM won't be welcome by such 
people, regardless of what scientific evidence you spew at them.  In fact, I 
believe it is the scientific evidence that
 is guiding the military to embrace such teachings because it is logical and it 
works.  Regarding liberals, I am beginning to believe that most liberals in the 
media and public spectrum fall in this category of people who are 
pre-dispositioned against spiritual and religious teachings.

I think liberalism is leading us more and more towards atheism rather than 
faith in anything beyond what the 5 senses can percieve.  I watch Bill Maher 
and other liberal shows often enough to know that they are representatives of a 
growing attitude throughout the country.  And if you think about it, 
gravitating away from spirituality and religion is a must.  I think it is 
sub-consciousness.  We simply can't have a set of socio-economic moral 
guidelines anywhere in our society if we are going to behave in a 
socio-economically immoral manner.  Regardless of how wrong or negative 
anyone's policies are, nobody wants to be wrong.  Not even Hitler wanted to be 
wrong.  If you read the translations of many of his speeches, they weren't 
maniacal, they were inspiring to a society that needed inspiration during hard 
times.  He had logic that supported his decisions and actions.  But to support 
the decisions and actions that Americans are currently disposed towards,
 and to feel right about it, the first step is to remove any teachings that 
provide moral guidelines that contradict the direction you want to move in.  
Hence, we must remove spirituality and religion from our society.  Just watch 
Bill Maher or other popular liberal spokespersons and their attitude towards 
religion.  They don't just point out that there are a lot of nutcases out 
there, they try to completely discredit every single religion.  Sort of like 
throwing the baby out with the bathwater.  You never see them attacking someone 
like Alan Watts or Eckhart Tolle.  They simply expose only the weirdos, and 
ingores the geniuses. 

This is not in any way to say conservatives are right and liberals are wrong.  
I know many conservatives who are very ignorant about many things.  I also know 
many people who believe deeply in Republican/Conservative politics but then 
they turn around and live a liberal lifestyle that is devoid of any personal 
responsibility.  Hence, they are liberals in their actions and conservative in 
their minds.  And many liberals I know, both the atheist and spiritual type are 
some of the most remarkable people I've ever met.  But  I still contend that 
the atheist type of liberal demographic is growing faster and is more publicly 
dominant in the media.  Personally, this is not a direction I think is going to 
lead us anywhere more positive in terms of neither development of consciousness 
or materialism.  It's weak on both ends of the spectrum.

Any thoughts?

seekliberation


 

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