you're right that California is not purely liberal, just as Texas isn't purely conservative. But I did spend enough time there to know that it is a much more attractive place to be in terms of social acceptance for many liberals, especially in specific cities. Northern Cali is clearly more conservative as well as the eastern portion.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > Any thoughts? > > Any person who can affix a name like "liberal" or > "conservative" to his or her beliefs -- be they > political, social, or spiritual -- is not worth > paying any attention to whatsoever. > > On another level, you must not have spent much > time in California if you think it's a liberal > bastion. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation" <seekliberation@> > wrote: > > > > After reading an article about California banning Yoga in schools, it made > > me think about liberalism in America and where it really stands on the > > subject of spirituality and development of consciousness. I always thought > > that of all states and all locations in America, the first one to welcome > > any form of Yoga, Meditation, and any other form of progressive teaching > > into its education or government programs, California would definitely be > > the first. The last element of our society that would promote such > > teachings would clearly be the ignorant, conservative, gun-toting military. > > Especially the Marine Corps, which attracts an exceedingly high percentage > > of conservatives. However, much to my surprise, in the last decade the > > entire US military has begun to make Yoga mandatory in its exercise program > > to include the Navy Seals, Marine Spec Ops units, the entire Army and many > > other units. Moreover, the Marine Corps just recently made meditation (not > > TM, but mindfulness meditation) a required portion of any Marine trying out > > for the Marine Corp's Special Operations Command. So essentially, it's the > > exact opposite of what anyone following spirituality in modern America > > would expect. The people liberals tend to hate the most (anyone from a > > disciplined or structured element of society) seem to be embracing eastern > > teachings more rapidly than groups that are predominantly liberal. In > > fact, my experience with people in the military is that they tend to be > > more open minded towards those types of teachings than a lot of liberal > > minded people I know. > > > > This brings me to a conclusion about liberals. I think they fall into > > different categories. You have some of the new-age spiritual types, like > > the ones who I remember from my days in Fairfield. Yes, they are all > > open-minded towards many controversial subjects such as gay marriage, and > > their views on economics leans towards socialism. But their inquisitive > > nature regarding spirituality indicates to me that they actually are an > > evolving culture in many ways. But then you have the other type of > > liberal. The purely atheist type like Bill Maher or Janeane Garafalo. > > They are likely to have the same social and economic views as the new-age > > spiritual type of liberal, but they are vehemently against spirituality and > > religion. This results in a resistance to any form of spirituality, and I > > can assure you that TM won't be welcome by such people, regardless of what > > scientific evidence you spew at them. In fact, I believe it is the > > scientific evidence that is guiding the military to embrace such teachings > > because it is logical and it works. Regarding liberals, I am beginning to > > believe that most liberals in the media and public spectrum fall in this > > category of people who are pre-dispositioned against spiritual and > > religious teachings. > > > > I think liberalism is leading us more and more towards atheism rather than > > faith in anything beyond what the 5 senses can percieve. I watch Bill > > Maher and other liberal shows often enough to know that they are > > representatives of a growing attitude throughout the country. And if you > > think about it, gravitating away from spirituality and religion is a must. > > I think it is sub-consciousness. We simply can't have a set of > > socio-economic moral guidelines anywhere in our society if we are going to > > behave in a socio-economically immoral manner. Regardless of how wrong or > > negative anyone's policies are, nobody wants to be wrong. Not even Hitler > > wanted to be wrong. If you read the translations of many of his speeches, > > they weren't maniacal, they were inspiring to a society that needed > > inspiration during hard times. He had logic that supported his decisions > > and actions. But to support the decisions and actions that Americans are > > currently disposed towards, and to feel right about it, the first step is > > to remove any teachings that provide moral guidelines that contradict the > > direction you want to move in. Hence, we must remove spirituality and > > religion from our society. Just watch Bill Maher or other popular liberal > > spokespersons and their attitude towards religion. They don't just point > > out that there are a lot of nutcases out there, they try to completely > > discredit every single religion. Sort of like throwing the baby out with > > the bathwater. You never see them attacking someone like Alan Watts or > > Eckhart Tolle. They simply expose only the weirdos, and ingores the > > geniuses. > > > > This is not in any way to say conservatives are right and liberals are > > wrong. I know many conservatives who are very ignorant about many things. > > I also know many people who believe deeply in Republican/Conservative > > politics but then they turn around and live a liberal lifestyle that is > > devoid of any personal responsibility. Hence, they are liberals in their > > actions and conservative in their minds. And many liberals I know, both > > the atheist and spiritual type are some of the most remarkable people I've > > ever met. But I still contend that the atheist type of liberal > > demographic is growing faster and is more publicly dominant in the media. > > Personally, this is not a direction I think is going to lead us anywhere > > more positive in terms of neither development of consciousness or > > materialism. It's weak on both ends of the spectrum. > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > seekliberation > > >
