When all the snow starts melting, the kaphaness of kapha season is gonna hit 
like a ton of bricks.  I wonder if there's a sound that's good for all 3 doshas 
just as there are a few foods that are good for all 3.




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 From: Bhairitu <noozg...@sbcglobal.net>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Tradition?
 

  
I need to find the Primordial Sound tape as I think it has the Gayatri 
Mantra on it. In ayurveda Om is considered useful to calm vata though 
Ram is favored.

On 02/28/2013 06:30 AM, navashok wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@...  wrote:
>> the non-use of Om by householders is very well documented to have been 
>> emphasized by Swami Brahmananda Saraswati.
> No argument about this here. But the reason is the caste system and 
> orthodoxy. According to extreme conservatives, any mantra of the Vedas could 
> not be pronounced by Non-Brahmins, and women. You can read the passage about 
> women and Om from the Beacon Light of the Himalaya, that Xeno uploaded to the 
> files.  Same is true for the Gayatri Mantra, it is not taught in the TM 
> movement. Other spiritual Hindu based movements are less conservative and 
> advocate it.
>
>> There is so many famous mantras that do not use Om at all ... " Shree Rama 
>> Jaya Rama...etc the examples are very many.
> Yes, but they are not Vedic. If they would be Vedic, that is, if they would 
> occur in the Rig Veda for example, they would be equally disallowed by the 
> movement. The Shankaracharya order of the Saraswati branch, to which Guru Dev 
> belonged to is the MOST conservative of all the orthodox orders. Only 
> Brahmins could become Swamis, that is also the reason that Maharishi never 
> became a Swami. And that is also the reason why his body was cremated instead 
> of buried. The movement uppers and Rajas would have wanted the body to be 
> burried, and have a real Samadhi, but the current Shankaracharya, even though 
> supportive of the movement did not allow.
>
> The question for me is therefore: how much do you believe in the caste system 
> and all the orthodox rules? If I don't believe in the caste system, I have no 
> reason to reject OM for meditation. In fact it would simplify things a lot. 
> Everybody knows it, knows it's proper pronunciation, and it is not directly 
> connected to any gods, it is not sectarian or cultic.
>
> For example Shree Rama Jaya Raam Jaya Jaya Raam is a Vaishnavic Mantra and 
> associated with Rama. There might be Shaivas who don't like it. There are 
> Shaivas who don't visit Vaishanava temples.
>
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think there is only one truly Vedic mantra and that is OM.
>>> Dear Nava,
>>> Real TM tru-believers strongly hold that Maharishi's revival of Knowledge 
>>> has saved India from `Om".  I have been lectured several times on this very 
>>> point by extremely faithful TM people who seem quite convinced.  You'll 
>>> notice that none of the TM versions of mantras on the TM-X website notice 
>>> `Om' as any part of a TM mantra.  Though Shri Vidya and everyone else going 
>>> back use "Om" to initiate or energized mantras.  Is TM missing something?  
>>> Maharishi uniquely seems a Vedic out-layer on this in the distribution of 
>>> sages on mantras.
>>> I like `Om' myself to spin the root and tune the heart and then go from 
>>> there.  But that is different from TM and should not be confused even 
>>> though chakras well light up upon proper awareness and practice of the 
>>> TM-sidhis.  But at that point it is independent of employing 'Om' or much 
>>> of anything else.
>>> Best Regards from Fairfield,
>>> -Buck
>>>
>>> 
>>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> navashok:
>>>>>> Where does the TM technique come from?
>>>>>>
>>>>>  From India and the Vedas? LoL!
>>>>>
>>>>> According to Mircea Eliade, only the rudiments of classic
>>>>> Yoga are to be found in the Vedas, and while shamanism and
>>>>> other techniques of ecstasy are documented among other
>>>>> Indo-European people, "Yoga is to be found only in India
>>>>> and in cultures influenced by Indian spirituality" (102).
>>>> I think there is only one truly Vedic mantra and that is OM. What 
>>>> Maharishi teaches as the Vedic tradition is actually the Tantric tradition 
>>>> appropriated by Brahmanism, through the teaching of Shri Vidhya. With 
>>>> Vedic literature, he means the Agamas.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Work cited:
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Yoga : Immortality and Freedom'
>>>>> by Mircea Eliade
>>>>> Princeton University Press, 1970
>>>>>
>>>>> Read more:
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: A decomposition of practice ertswhile abusers lore
>>>>> Author: Willytex
>>>>> Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
>>>>> Date: February 6, 2005
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/ykqy7zh
>>>>>
>>>>> Other titles of interst:
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Shamanism: Archaic Techniques of Ecstasy'
>>>>> by Mircea Eliade
>>>>> Princeton University Press; 2004
>>>>>
>>>>> 'The Yoga Tradition: Its History, Literature,
>>>>> Philosophy and Practice'
>>>>> by Georg Feuerstein and Ken Wilbur
>>>>> Hohm Press, 2001
>>>>>
>
>


 

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