OMG Ann wrote all that and you don't show any inclination to absorb what
she had to say - you couldn't detect any sincerity, conviction in her post?
 You dismiss Ann's entire message because you think Ann wants Judy's
support in attacking others? Oh boy - you are fucking hopeless man.

On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 8:22 PM, seventhray27 <steve.sun...@yahoo.com>wrote:

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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" <awoelflebater@...> wrote:
> > No 'taker' here but I will give something.
> >
> > I actually take umbrage at your assertion about Judy's honesty. I
> personally don't think she has a dishonest molecule in her body. In fact, I
> would go so far as to says she can't help but tell the truth, as she sees
> it and at the risk of seriously pissing everyone off. I do not believe Judy
> is about distracting her reader from what is the closest to the truth of a
> thing, as she sees it from her level.
> snip
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> Ann,
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> More credit to you, if you can follow her arguments.  I find that they
> often become convoluted beyond any sensible conclusion.  And I suspect
> that you, like most of us, don't bother to read past the first couple of
> rebuttals she makes, especially after the third of fourth iteration.
>
> I would say, that if anyone wants to find a flaw in another person's
> reasoning, they can do so.  There is always some technical point that can
> be disputed.  But, by that point the spirit of the argument, or discussion
> is lost, and the object becomes simply finding a way to win.  Or maybe you
> decide to frame your argument in parameters that you alone determine as
> valid and win on that basis.
>
> Oh, and  the sin of snipping.  That can always be grounds for immediate
> dismissal of any points. Because snipping in Judy's book is to hide
> something, and not for conciseness. (unless she does it)
>
> And yes, she does have time, have time, have time for nearly unlimited
> research, (which we must remember is "research" when she does it, but
> "internet stalking" when done by someone else)
>
> So, all of this, for me, disputes any notion of "honesty" on Judy's part.
>
> But I certainly understand the attraction of having someone like Judy on
> your team.  She can disparage with best of them.  But, I suspect that she
> would remain a "better" friend, or ally at a distance.
>
> And is it fair to bring up, that there must come a time, when we think
> about what legacy we might leave behind.  I think that comes into play at
> some point.
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> > She is inexhaustible in her research and in the pursuit of 'getting it
> right'; she obviously has a mind that ranks right up there, as far as
> lucid, raw intelligence goes, as high as anybody who has ever posted here.
> (I know who is rolling their eyes right now, so don't think I don't.)
> >
> > Her style, her fighting instinct, her doggedness does not endear her to
> everyone. Fair enough. You don't have to like someone to appreciate their
> innate insistence on accuracy, on this kind of purity of defining things.
> She is, to me, very like a human barometer or other finely-tuned instrument
> that can't go against this nature of hers to give one an accurate reading.
> She can admit when she is wrong. She isn't easy at times, in fact she can
> be bloody ruthless. But I love that, in its proper time, in its proper
> context. The thing is, I don't believe Judy writes/asserts anything she
> does not truly believe - even at the risk of being wrong. If that is not
> honesty, then I don't know what is.
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