--- In [email protected], "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@...> wrote:
I really enjoyed this post Salyavin. Especially your compassionate description of the process of leaving a group like TM and understanding what MJ is processing. Humor is the balm that makes it all go easier. Nice one. > > > > --- In [email protected], "Ann" <awoelflebater@> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "feste37" <feste37@> wrote > > > > Unfortunately, in his zeal to denounce TM, MJ has become a bigot. He > > > attacks Crowley simply because she is a TMer. Is that any better than > > > attacking someone for being a Catholic, or Mormon, or a Jew? Let's > > > suppose that someone is angry at the Catholic Church ("Those priests are > > > all child molesters!") and then finds a news presenter who happens to be > > > Catholic and attacks them for something innocuous they said, when his > > > real purpose is to display anti-Catholic bigotry. Poor MJ seems to be in > > > a state of permanent rage and righteous indignation, and bigotry is the > > > result. I wish he would go fishing or something to calm down. > > Maybe you should go on an introductory talk. One of the claims > of TM, as reported in 600,000 studies in 475,000 universities, > is that it improves moral reasoning by bringing one more in tune > with "natural law" (whatever that is) This isn't something the > other religions you mention have even thought of as a selling point. > > I didn't watch the video or read the report though so there's no > point trying to drag me into the argument.... > > Does seem obvious though that TM has no more intrinsic emotional > developmental value than just praying to the skydaddy. > > > > > Perhaps he is working THROUGH something or maybe MJ is just STUCK in the > > mud, spinning his tires or maybe he has moved ahead a few feet. I am not > > yet sure based on his posts but we are certainly all sounding boards here. > > I can keep allowing his voice to reverberate off of me but I have no more > > to add to what he has to say. It is like he keeps worrying that big boil of > > his but I think it is still there. It would be nice to think it would burst > > and go away but at this moment I am not convinced it will. > > Of course it will, he's angry because he's realised he got duped > by a cult* and is directing his feeling of being had by a con man > into anger at the scam he willingly went along with. It's a process, sooner > or later it evens out. Everyone makes peace with the past and learns to see > their own part in it, and finally the funny side of having once thought that > nature (whatever that is) might give you some "support" just because you sit > with your eyes closed twice a day. At the moment MJ seems to be happy railing > against his previous beliefs and pointing out their absurdity. We've all > either been there or will > go there or will die before we even realise we got had. > > *Cult: a religion without political influence. Tom Wolfe. >
