Oh well hello there Salivating puppy, His Holiness and King Baby, MJ processing 
is well and good. But he is accusing TM of masterminding Steubenville rape and 
Penis snatching incidents in Africa, LOL..does that sound rational to you guys?


On Mar 20, 2013, at 10:11 AM, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com> 
wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@...> 
> wrote:
> 
> I really enjoyed this post Salyavin. Especially your compassionate 
> description of the process of leaving a group like TM and understanding what 
> MJ is processing. Humor is the balm that makes it all go easier.
> 
> Nice one.
> 
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" <awoelflebater@> wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <feste37@> wrote
> > 
> > > > Unfortunately, in his zeal to denounce TM, MJ has become a bigot. He 
> > > > attacks Crowley simply because she is a TMer. Is that any better than 
> > > > attacking someone for being a Catholic, or Mormon, or a Jew? Let's 
> > > > suppose that someone is angry at the Catholic Church ("Those priests 
> > > > are all child molesters!") and then finds a news presenter who happens 
> > > > to be Catholic and attacks them for something innocuous they said, when 
> > > > his real purpose is to display anti-Catholic bigotry. Poor MJ seems to 
> > > > be in a state of permanent rage and righteous indignation, and bigotry 
> > > > is the result. I wish he would go fishing or something to calm down.
> > 
> > Maybe you should go on an introductory talk. One of the claims
> > of TM, as reported in 600,000 studies in 475,000 universities,
> > is that it improves moral reasoning by bringing one more in tune
> > with "natural law" (whatever that is) This isn't something the
> > other religions you mention have even thought of as a selling point.
> > 
> > I didn't watch the video or read the report though so there's no
> > point trying to drag me into the argument....
> > 
> > Does seem obvious though that TM has no more intrinsic emotional
> > developmental value than just praying to the skydaddy.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Perhaps he is working THROUGH something or maybe MJ is just STUCK in the 
> > > mud, spinning his tires or maybe he has moved ahead a few feet. I am not 
> > > yet sure based on his posts but we are certainly all sounding boards 
> > > here. I can keep allowing his voice to reverberate off of me but I have 
> > > no more to add to what he has to say. It is like he keeps worrying that 
> > > big boil of his but I think it is still there. It would be nice to think 
> > > it would burst and go away but at this moment I am not convinced it will.
> > 
> > Of course it will, he's angry because he's realised he got duped
> > by a cult* and is directing his feeling of being had by a con man
> > into anger at the scam he willingly went along with. It's a process, sooner 
> > or later it evens out. Everyone makes peace with the past and learns to see 
> > their own part in it, and finally the funny side of having once thought 
> > that nature (whatever that is) might give you some "support" just because 
> > you sit with your eyes closed twice a day. At the moment MJ seems to be 
> > happy railing against his previous beliefs and pointing out their 
> > absurdity. We've all either been there or will
> > go there or will die before we even realise we got had.
> > 
> > *Cult: a religion without political influence. Tom Wolfe.
> >
> 
> 

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