--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And somehow that gives you pleasure?  Very strange...
> 
> I think I will officially retire from trying to understand this
> relationship.  It clearly makes you both very happy, in some
> way that I definitely do not comprehend, so I'll wish you well.
> 
>
****
Their way of relating to each other feels like a troubled marriage. It
brings to my mind a lively description by a psychiatrist of a case,
where the therapy had got totally stuck and led nowhere. The woman was
seeing the psychiatrist because of her awful husband. She spent the
therapy sessions by describing and complaining about the faults in her
husband. She couldn't see any problem in her way of relating to her
husband. The problem was not that the husband wouldn't have been
clumsy, dirty etc, but that the wife subconsciously desperately needed
that kind of husband to feel good about herself. She couldn't divorce
him. As the psychiatrist put it, there was an unseen strong rubber
band between  the couple. Each time one of them tried to leave the
unhappy relationship, they were drawn together again by the rubber
band. They just seemed to serve each other too well in mirroring the
other's disowned parts.

Irmeli

 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > Incredibly complex and heavily-invested relationship for two 
> > > > people who have never met, I must say.  And the value for you
> > > > appears to be "saving the world by outing Barry, day by day"?
> > > 
> > > Maybe saving him from himself too.  But that's
> > > been mostly on alt.m.t.
> > > 
> > > Although he started out on this forum--well before
> > > I even got here--by trashing me (I suspect in order
> > > to "prepare" the group in case I decided to turn up),
> > > and lying about me once I was here, once I'd cleared
> > > up the lies, I was willing to leave him alone if he
> > > left me alone and didn't misrepresent alt.m.t.
> > > 
> > > Unfortunately, that didn't work out.
> > > 
> > > And I'll just observe once again how interesting
> > > it is that *I* get all the flak, while nobody seems
> > > to want to chide Barry.
> > 
> > I'm just sitting back and enjoying this, but just
> > wait...it gets better.  On a.m.t., Judy is on
> > record as believing that I write all of you in
> > private email to say bad things about her and 
> > make you think bad things about her.
> > 
> > What she doesn't realize -- and never has -- is
> > that all I do is push her buttons and let her
> > rant.  She does all the rest.




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