Barry sez: > ALL that we talk about here is opinion. ALL of it. > > The problem arises when some try to pretend that > their opinion -- based on their interpretation -- > is fact, or even more laughably, "reality."
In your opinion. ;-) Barry has never been able to grasp the concept of "infinite regress." He's fallen into one, as he does here, more times than I can count. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" <anartaxius@> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" <steve.sundur@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Oh my. I missed this earlier in the day. Barry, Barry, > > > > you were right. It's not about defending x,y, or z. > > > > It's really about a very demented, pinched, and unhappy > > > > person. My compassion reaches out to her. > > > > > > Steve, naturally I agree with you. This message to > > > Share just *drips* with hatred and malevolence, not > > > to mention the delusional belief that Judy "knows" > > > what people karmically "deserve." > > > > > > Trying hard to be compassionate myself, I should point > > > out something about Judy that makes her a victim of > > > her own impulses. It is a trait that she exemplifies > > > here on FFL the most, but it is also a trait shared > > > by Ann, by Robin, by Jim, and others. > > > > > > They believe that words are more important than actions. > > > In particular, they believe that what *they* say -- > > > about their motivations, about themselves, about the > > > images of themselves they wish to push out, about > > > others, about *anything* -- are more important than > > > their actions, and the INTENT those actions reveal. > > > > > > Judy *believes* Robin because she believes what he > > > *says* about himself. She believes in his words so > > > strongly that this belief renders her incapable of > > > perceiving his actions, which are often in complete > > > opposition to what his words claim. Naturally, she > > > does the same thing about herself, *saying* things > > > about her supposed motivations (to "protect people > > > who have been wronged," etc.) that are *said* to > > > mask the fact that (IMO) she is just dumping on > > > another of her targets because she's an old, bitter > > > woman who at this point in her life can do nothing > > > else. > > > > > > Although I am the first to point out that the Fred > > > Lenz - Rama guy I studied with was more than a little > > > bonkers in many ways, he also taught me some things > > > that I still consider valuable. One of them was, > > > "Listen to what people say, but watch what they DO." > > > > > > That has been one of my guidelines ever since. I > > > really *don't* ever believe thoroughly in what people > > > *say* about themselves and their beliefs and their > > > motivations. I watch what they DO. Their actions > > > reveal the "real" them. The words are just words. > > > > > > Given the example below, Judy's words are nasty > > > and could not reek more of superiority and arrogance > > > and hatred if she had tried to capture those things > > > consciously. Whatever she may try to say *about* > > > what she said, the fact remains that she said it. > > > THAT was an action. And that action speaks volumes. > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks so much for your nurturing words feste. Big karmic burn > > > > > > happening. > > > > > > > > > > About time some of the rotten karma you've accumulated > > > > > here started burning you. Let's hope you learn something > > > > > from it. > > > > One the Forbes website yesterday was a quotation of Walter Benjamin: > > > > "All human knowledge takes the form of interpretation" > > > > Which is just another way of saying all we talk about > > is opinion. > > ALL that we talk about here is opinion. ALL of it. > > The problem arises when some try to pretend that > their opinion -- based on their interpretation -- > is fact, or even more laughably, "reality." > > > There is a certain kind of local truth in language. 'I > > burned my toast' is an example that would be called a > > fact. > > Quantify "burned." :-) > > It might be different for different people. > > > But for the most part our ideas of truth are much > > shallower than we think, and berating others based > > on our own idea of truth has certain pitfalls. > > Pitfalls that some have never learned to avoid. > > I may berate people, but never based on my idea > of "truth," because I do not believe in the concept. > There IS no such thing as "truth," merely inter- > pretation, filtered through a lifetime's worth > (or many lifetimes' worth) of prejudices. > > > Direct statements, such as 'I do not like you' are > > much more direct than 'You are a liar, and thus > > are despicable' which implies a sense of superiority. > > Exactly. > > > My own opinion, shallow as it is, is that Judy's > > sense of truth is very inflexible. After all, logic > > is inflexible, but she applies it so narrowly as to > > miss the larger picture, and it is imbued with a > > strange, dark emotion. > > Just "run the numbers." How many of her posts -- this > week or ANY week -- are about trying to dump on one > or more of her enemies, and how many are about some- > thing else -- anything else. The percentages come > closer to anything resembling "truth" than any claim > of "knowing" the truth. > > > Now it is interesting Barry, I do not interpret what > > you say that way. I do not sense that darkness. It > > almost seems more like exasperation, that you almost > > cannot grasp how people can be so dense, and so dense > > for so long. > > Can't argue with that. :-) >
