You that mourn our follies past,
Precious hours and years laid waste,
Turn to The Unified Field, om turn and live,
Jesus Christ can still, can still forgive.
>
> Sweet Redeemer from within,
> Borne on wings of love.
> >
> > Fainting souls in peril's hour,
> > Yield not to the Tempter's pow'r
> > On the rising Field rely,
> > Jesus Christ now reigns, now reigns within.
> > >
> > > Sweet Redeemer from within,
> > > Borne on wings of love.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Meditators for Christ! Yup, meditating finding the seer of the heart,
> > > > finding in Jesus a spiritual brother who was literally calling us into
> > > > our true divinity, which is also our ultimate humanity.
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon <mdixon.6569@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Buck, if you really do your research, you'll find that members of ALL
> > > > > religions have a tendency to dismiss the validity and value of other
> > > > > religions. All religions have adherents with different levels of
> > > > > understanding the truths about their own religion and other religions
> > > > > as well. Greater spiritual awareness raises the level of
> > > > > understanding which raises one above the base level of the collective.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: Buck
> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 7:58 PM
> > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: All Meditators are for Christ!
> > > > >
> > > > > Â
> > > > >
> > > > > The truth is that many of us have a mixed history with the word
> > > > > "Christ". If we've been on a spiritual path for awhile, we might
> > > > > have outgrown a more dogmatic vision or dislike the way Christianity
> > > > > has treated other religions, or have issues with Christian denials of
> > > > > the validity of science.Â
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Good old Hindu triumphalism! Yes if Christianity would just
> > > > > > abandon all the theological doctrines that distinguish it from
> > > > > > other religious ideas...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > THEN...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > TM fulfill it's goals! How can you tell triumphalism from a sort
> > > > > > of broad but simpleminded ecumenicalism that it became popular
> > > > > > among religious leaders to give lip-service to in the 1960's?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just switch the ideas around and see if you accept them. Here we go
> > > > > > Buck:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you accept Jesus as your personal savior, and maintain all the
> > > > > > necessary sacraments of the Church, including but not limited to
> > > > > > going to confession before receiving holy communion (Jesus tastes
> > > > > > just like chicken) you will gain your desired state of Brahman
> > > > > > consciousness and life in the eternal limbo of the very poorly
> > > > > > defined eternal future promised to you by Maharishi when you die.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not so appealing is it? Because in your heart of hearts you are
> > > > > > dismissing all of the core theology of Christianity (psssst, over
> > > > > > here, keep it down, keep it down...it also is dismissing that OTHER
> > > > > > one that, you know might kill us for saying this) and proclaiming
> > > > > > that YOUR version of imagining how things REALLY are in the
> > > > > > universe is the rightest of the right, the bestest of the best, and
> > > > > > NOT the penultimate, but the underused but less flashy sounding
> > > > > > ULTIMATE itself.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is why secular people are suspicious of religious ideas. While
> > > > > > there is a lot of "all we are saying is that you need to love our
> > > > > > brothers and sisters", underneath it is the presumed arrogance of
> > > > > > absolute truth. The kind of truth that humans totally suck at, and
> > > > > > yet perversely, believe they are really, really good at. (It just
> > > > > > gives us an epistemological boner to feel so SURE about something
> > > > > > doesn't it?)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So enjoy you golden mammaries of pure knowledge if that floats your
> > > > > > boat. (Still perky after all these years, must have had some work
> > > > > > done.) But drop the triumphalist nonsense about other religions.
> > > > > > It just makes you sound (like it did Maharishi) like you need to
> > > > > > get off the farm a little more and interact with people who have
> > > > > > not drunk the same brand of that oversweetened beverage with the
> > > > > > equally enthusiastic boundaries violator, red pitcher who looks
> > > > > > just a little too happy to have broken down the WALL to pitch HIS
> > > > > > product in OUR living room.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > However, there's also a deep, non-religious, radical truth at the
> > > > > > > core that we simply have to reclaim, which is that we ALL have
> > > > > > > the Christ energy within us as our higher spiritual potential.Â
> > > > > > > Even if we're a Buddhist. Or a Jew. Or a pagan.Â
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Of course linguistically 'Christ' actually comes from the root
> > > > > > > > meaning "anointed" and it's the part of us that is blessed,
> > > > > > > > suffused, and permeated with divinity.Â
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We may not call it Christ because of the associations, but
> > > > > > > > > it's actually a higher octave of our true nature. It's the
> > > > > > > > > part of our being that is at one with The Divine The Unified
> > > > > > > > > Field of All Nature, that expresses unconditional love for
> > > > > > > > > all people and all things, and yes including those who harm
> > > > > > > > > us, that is pouring forth more soul into manifest form.Â
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Christ's the dimension of us that is incarnating more
> > > > > > > > > > Godliness into this planet, even if we don't believe in
> > > > > > > > > > God. It's Physics and it's Reality.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Meditators for Christ!
> > > > > > > > > > By Christ!
> > > > > > > > > > Come to Meditation,
> > > > > > > > > > -Buck in the Dome
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "Jason"
> > > > > > > > > > <jedi_spock@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > hey salyavin, according to the Catholic Church of my
> > > > > > > > > > > > > youth, once a person is baptised they have what is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > called, an indelible mark on the soul showing that.Â
> > > > > > > > > > > > > If I remember correctly, the other sacraments that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > leave indelible marks are Confirmation and Holy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Orders. So in this sense one is never really even
> > > > > > > > > > > > > an ex Catholic. I * left the Church * when I was
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 17. In the beginning I thought of myself as an ex
> > > > > > > > > > > > > or lapsed Catholic. But that label has dropped from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > my thinking as time goes by. And sometimes for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > family events, I still attend Mass and Communion. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > admit this probably horrifies me half sister who has
> > > > > > > > > > > > > been a devout Catholic. OTOH she did ask me to be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > godmother for her youngest so maybe not (-:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting. That's quite a load to put on someone
> > > > > > > > > > > > methinks. I wasn't
> > > > > > > > > > > > even christened and so have no deep early programming
> > > > > > > > > > > > to make me feel
> > > > > > > > > > > > part of any church but an indelible mark, that's heavy!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I hate it when I hear people say they were born Jewish
> > > > > > > > > > > > or Muslim or
> > > > > > > > > > > > whatever because they weren't. We are all born
> > > > > > > > > > > > scientists, curious
> > > > > > > > > > > > and open minded but the adult world seems to be in a
> > > > > > > > > > > > race to beat
> > > > > > > > > > > > that out of us and as soon as we are set in our ways
> > > > > > > > > > > > the poison gets
> > > > > > > > > > > > passed on. My parents were really cool about things
> > > > > > > > > > > > like that
> > > > > > > > > > > > and it took me a long time to notice. I Should thank
> > > > > > > > > > > > them for being
> > > > > > > > > > > > so irreligious but still very moral.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I really don't like the word seeker and humanist
> > > > > > > > > > > > > sounds a little dry.ÃÂ I've read books etc. in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > which people use the phrase spiritual but not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > religious.ÃÂ But even the word spiritual doesn't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > sound encompassing enough to me now.ÃÂ Does that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > make any sense?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I don't like anything that sounds new-agey like seeker
> > > > > > > > > > > > either,
> > > > > > > > > > > > because I'm not really. I used to be a determined
> > > > > > > > > > > > "finder" as
> > > > > > > > > > > > I refered to having discovered TM but I'm a bit more
> > > > > > > > > > > > agnostic now.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Same with spiritual as it it sounds like being involved
> > > > > > > > > > > > in something
> > > > > > > > > > > > that isn't actually real in the sense that there is
> > > > > > > > > > > > some sort of
> > > > > > > > > > > > extra realm to be discovered, when it seems to me that
> > > > > > > > > > > > all I'm
> > > > > > > > > > > > doing is refining how I see this one. And even then I
> > > > > > > > > > > > don't see how
> > > > > > > > > > > > we ever see anything other than what our head machinery
> > > > > > > > > > > > can cope
> > > > > > > > > > > > with in a mechanical sense and we've got evolution to
> > > > > > > > > > > > thank for
> > > > > > > > > > > > that. I'm the most materialist meditator I ever met...
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > You are not a materialist. You are a dialectical
> > > > > > > > > > > rationalist and an eclectical scientist.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Some religionists are also highly materialistic. Some
> > > > > > > > > > > atheists are also highly spiritual. The two are not
> > > > > > > > > > > mutually exclusive.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > How about devoted Earthling?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Like it. Sounds like an acceptance of reality with an
> > > > > > > > > > > > intention
> > > > > > > > > > > > to make the most of what we've got.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Â
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > > > > > > > From: salyavin808 <fintlewoodlewix@>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 1:12 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getting Groovy at the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Godless Church.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÂ
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "Buck"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is interesting. Lot like the primitive
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quaker meeting. Like the Sunday Quaker meeting
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we have in Fairfield. Very high spiritual group
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gathering but not religious in the sense of iron
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > age mythology. Very contemporary.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting how something fills a need that we all
> > > > > > > > > > > > > have, whether it's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > religious or not doesn't seem to matter. When they
> > > > > > > > > > > > > start reading
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Richard Dawkins lectures and saying 'all praise to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > DNA' at the end is when I'll start to think it's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > odd...
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Polling shows that ex-Catholics are the third
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > largest religious group in the United States.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > What do they call themselves now then?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-04-24/national/38776675_1_communion-body-and-blood-catholic-church
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