> 
> > ---  "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yup, and it's perfectly natural to find something complex
> > > and assume that it must have been created by something more
> > > complex. This was Darwins genius as he showed it isn't the
> > > case where biology is concerned.
> > >
>
> ---  "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote:
> > 
> > But not where human consciousness is concerned.
> >
>
---  "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@...> wrote:
>
> That's a belief. And a strange one. There isn't any reason to
> think human consciousness hasn't evolved. Quite the opposite. 
> Look at the brains of other animals both living and extinct, 
> you can easily plot on a graph how the brain has evolved over 
> the millenia and from there see what animals had what skills 
> and what the difference in structures must mean to our awareness
> and thought capability.

The forebrain (human) is very recently evolved. The midbrain 
(mammalian) and the hindbrain (reptailian) are much older.

I am surprised that authbabe has to make a silly statement 
that physicists concept of God is vanity. Physicists have no 
opinion of God because there is no proof it it.


>  
> > > It isn't like god is a discovery as in "Hey who's that over
> > > there with the long beard?" And it isn't like god is an
> > > efficient explanation for anything which is what you want
> > > from a theory. You can always spot a bad idea because they
> > > raise more questions than they answer.
> > >
> 
> ---  "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, but again, the question is whether the frame of
> > reference is adequate.
> > 
>
> > ---  "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > The reason physicists don't believe in quantum god theories 
> > > is that they make the universe more complex where it should
> > > be getting less complex. And it's unnecessary.
> > >
>
> ---  "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote:
> > 
> > Our notions of "simple" and "complex" may be more
> > limited than we realize.
> > 
> > ---  "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > God is our vanity.
> > >
>
> ---  "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote:
> >
> > I'd say the concept physicists (most if not all) have of
> > God is *their* vanity.
> 
> Is zero a number?
>


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