--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 9/12/05 7:09 PM, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm sorry, but the idea that in this day and age > > there are still intelligent people who have to be > > educated as to how strip clubs exploit women as > > sex objects is just too depressing to contemplate. > > Amen. It's almost not worth responding to.
Nice dismissive answer. Now can you go beyond that and actually make a factual, current data and/or observation case as to why strip clubs exploit women as sex objects. I understand how one can make an imagination or TV-series based case for such. But I am talking about today's reality. And my case about the role of clubs in de-objectifying women in my experience. Women became partially objectified in my mind before I ever went to a strip club. They became less objectified after I went to a few. I know men of similar experience. So at minimum, universal claims of "objectification" are false. Can limited claims of objectification be made? Can you cite real life experience, personal or or friends, where they became more objectified after visiting strip clubs? Or controlled studies that explicitly show this. (None of your cited studies, beyond being quite ancient for the most part) do not appear to do this. If you can't then even a limited case can't be made. In that case, your case for objectification appears to be based solely on theory without any empirical evidence to support it. Theories are nice, but when outmoded, when they do no fit the data, they must be discarded. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
