--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "Patrick Gillam" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- sparaig  wrote:
> > >
> > >  It is the distortion of male-
> > > female relationships that is the problem. 
> > 
> > Well, a lot of ordinary television distorts male-female 
> > relationships. _The Importance of Being Earnest_ distorts them.
> > 
> > _Hamlet_ does not display my idea of functional, healthy, 
> > male-female relationships.
> > 
> > But forget that tack. Consider this: 
> > 
> > Say I go into a strip club. I enjoy a dancer. I am one half of 
> > that specific male-female relationship -- me as the male 
> > observer, and she as the female dancer. 
> > 
> > I would think I'd have the power to influence that relationship -- 
> > to determine whether it reflects Truth and Beauty, or is distorted.
> > 
> > If the healing power of my awareness reaches her, seems to 
> > me that would be a good thing -- a good relationship. Like when 
> > actors and musicians get energy from their audiences.
> > 
> > And I get energy from her, as I would from a musician or actor.
> > 
> > Say I'm liberal with the tips.
> > 
> > Is this relationship distorted?
> > 
> >  - Patrick Gillam
> 
> You're a participant.

Jesus, Lawson, I just said I was a participant, and described 
the nature of my participation. What do you mean by being so coy?

Here's my point: For you to say stripping is a distortion of 
male-female relationships is only true as long as one of 
the participants allows the distortion to take place. But if 
one person -- you, me, akasha, the dancer -- enters into 
the relationship with the intention to have a non-distorted 
relationship, your statement becomes false to the extent 
we succeed.

It's up to us, each of us as individuals, to determine the 
nature of a relationship. To say that any given act distorts 
relationships just doesn't work for me.

 - Patrick Gillam




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