--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <authfriend@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote:
> <snip>
> > However, a decade or so from now, while y'all are
> > still trying to distance yourselves from ever having
> > confessed to having liked "Twin Peaks,"
>
> Who has been trying to distance themselves from having
> asserted that they liked "Twin Peaks"? Did I miss
> something? Or is Barry just confused again?

Well, I would say that you missed the phrase "a
decade or so from now." "Still" refers to the idea
that they'll still be claiming to find depth in the
series then, all those years on, not that they're
distancing themselves from it now. Pretty astounding
oopsie from someone who claims to be a professional
editor and spends much of her time berating others
on this form for their inability to read.  :-)

My point -- although speculative -- was that in a
decade or so I think *most* people will find "Twin
Peaks" a laughable exercise in pretense and, as I
suggested by reposting Alex's video clip, a classic
example of "being weird just to be weird."

It's the same realization that many of us who liked
Jean-Luc Godard's films in our youth come to when
re-watching them these days. They're so bad as to
be laughable. Nothing but youthful posturing and
the use of incomprehensible (or non-existent) plots
and one-dimensional characters to make it *seem* as
if they're full of deep, symbolic, cosmic meaning.

That's what I suspect will happen with "Twin Peaks"
and many of Lynch's movies. There's an "artsy" trap
that many critics and moviegoers fall prey to in
that they feel that films *with* strong plotlines
and strong, believable characters can't really be
full of deep meaning. They write off these films to
some extent and put down the filmmakers as creators
of "popular entertainment." You hear this said all
the time about Steven Spielberg.

My reaction is, "Excuse me? Shakespeare was a creator
of popular entertainment. That doesn't mean that his
works were devoid of depth or that they didn't explore
interesting topics."

I have an admitted prejudice towards Joss Whedon because
I think he creates (in his TV work, anyway...I'm not as
impressed by his recent blockbuster movies) some of the most
tightly-plotted stories going, full of strong, interesting
characters who would be memorable on their own, but who
become much more so because of their interactions with
other characters, just as strong and just as interesting as
they are. There is no such thing as an "extra" in a Joss
Whedon story; everyone has a strong role to play, and
without any one of them the whole wouldn't be whole.

You could remove an enigmatic dwarf of three from any of
David Lynch's movies, and no one would even notice. They
were there in the first place only to throw an element
of weirdness into the mix, and lure people who fall for
that stuff into thinking he had deep things to say. I
don't think he did.

Although I think he's done acceptable work in the past,
I don't hold "Twin Peaks" or most of his recent films
among them. They are pretty much the film counterpart of
the cartoon series he "penned" for the L.A. Weekly for
many years. "Penned" is in quotes because he drew it
ONCE, and never changed it in all the succeeding years.
All he had to do was send the editors new words to insert
into the word balloons each week:



That's how I think he makes movies. He just recycles the
same images from his nightmares, going for weirdness to
distract people from the fact that he doesn't have any
creative ideas any more, if he ever did. YMMV.


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