--- In [email protected], laughinggull108 wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "Richard J. Williams" richard@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > What the "hard problem" is *about* is something very > > > > > simple, very immediate, very transparent--that there is > > > > > *something it is like* to be you, to be me, to be Dennett. > > > > > You may have to sit with that phrase for awhile before it > > > > > makes sense; but once it does, a whole lotta crap just > > > > > falls away. > > > > > > > Share: > > > > But my speculation is that it might have something to do > > > > with the vibratory nature of energy and matter, something > > > > yet to be understood by modern science. > > > > > > > > Though I think ancient rishis experienced it and wrote > > > > about it... > > > > > > authfriend: > > > Experienced what and wrote about what? Everybody with a > > > functioning mind experiences qualia, and loads of people, > > > philosophers and scientists, have written about them... > > > > > It looks like Share hit the nail on the head with this one: > > the whole TMer notion of cosmic consciousness is based on > > the vibratory nature of the qualia. > > > > It has already been confirmed by none other than emptybill > > that TM is based on the Spanda theory of vibration, which > > agrees with MMY's thoughts on the mechanics of consciousness > > vis-s-vis the Kashemere Tantrism. > > > > > That the experience of qualia is not understood by modern > > > science is not speculation, it's a fact. On the other hand, > > > just about everything has "something to do with the > > > vibratory nature of energy and matter" one way or another. > > > So you're not really saying anything of any interest... > > > > > It's the non-TMer theories by the pundits like Xeno and > > Sal that are of no interest to the average TMer. LoL! > > > > Vijnana Bhairava Tantra: > > > > "The central tenet of this system is everything is 'Spanda', > > both the objective exterior reality and the subjective > > world..." > > > > Spanda: > > > > "The Spanda system, introduced by Vasugupta (c. 800 AD), is > > usually described as 'vibration/movement of consciousness." > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_Shaivism > > > > Any relationship to the much later introduced Spandex? > > "The Spandex system, introduced by DuPont (c. 1959 AD) is usually described as 'jiggly/molding of cellulite'. > > "The central tenet of this system is everything should be clothed in 'Spandex', both the body's exterior fleshy folds as well as the inner layers of fat..." > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spandex > > Thoughts anyone?
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