My bedtime Ravi, my brain will now shut down. That's from the viewpoint of experience - it will mostly be quiet with lots of turning in the night, and dreams, and then something like a person will show up in the morning, unless I die in the night. I don't think Chalmers or Dennett would be interested in a dead brain. Your brain though, now that might be a treat for someone. A brain that is highly rational in certain situations, and on the edge of sanity otherwise.
As you always seem close to combustion, I would not become a Buddhist, as you know, some members of some of those sects seem to have a habit of setting themselves on fire when things do not go according to their beliefs. By the way the lack of an inner life does not preclude the absence of a full rich life. It is just that if you are deeply embodied, lack of inner life seems like non-existence, death even, but that is just the misunderstanding predicated by delusion. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@...> wrote: > > Xeno - Here's an interesting conundrum for you, considering the absence of > rich inner life in your Unity. > > If you die and your brain is donated how would be more happy - Chalmers or > Dennett? > > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@...>wrote: > > > No anger and arrogance in your enlightenment? How sad. > > > > I thought your platitude-based, insight-less enlightenment was just > > mediocre, it's now boring as well. > > > > How would you contrast your mediocre, boring enlightenment with Xeno and > > Adyashanti's - he says there's no rich inner experience in Unity, that it > > is equivalent to being a philosophical zombie? > > > > No wonder the likes of Barry, Vaj and Curtis lick their lips when they see > > you open your stupid mouth. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:55 PM, doctordumbass@... < > > no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > >> ** > >> > >> > >> Yep, it is called growing up, Ravi. Recognizing that ambiguity and > >> curiosity never stop. Maturing one' sense of self so that there is no need > >> for arrogance and anger. If such judgmental emotions make you feel more > >> alive, then go for it, but you are selling yourself a crock of crap. > >> > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > Well Ann has already beautifully addressed the ridiculousness of this > >> scale > >> > but Lester is promoting the same old, stale paradigm that's being > >> peddled > >> > by millions of others - it's nothing new. > >> > > >> > I say he can never guarantee that his peace, his humility is not > >> tainted. > >> > Too bad Lester didn't meet me I would taken less than 10 minutes to > >> expose > >> > his pseudo-peace and humility. These idiots are the easiest for me to > >> rip > >> > apart. > >> > > >> > Whereas my pride and arrogance is untainted. > >> > > >> > Arrogance reveals, humility masks. Arrogance, pride, anger are authentic > >> > expressions. It's easy to find comfort in scales, ideas wrapped as > >> belief > >> > system, as a way of living to ease the pain, suffering and burden. It's > >> > much harder to live in that metaphysical tension caused by the > >> conflicting, > >> > opposing emotions. The secret of paradise, bliss is here - that there > >> > exists such a metaphysical space, where you languish, wallow, indulge in > >> > conflicting, opposing emotions, where you are never numbed, frozen, > >> > rendered immobile by your ideas, beliefs, one which leads to > >> self-freedom > >> > and self-knowledge. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote: > >> > > >> > > ** > >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Interesting from the perspective of Lester Levenson, an American sage > >> > > whose insights gave rise both to the Sedona Method and to the Release > >> > > Technique organizations. Lester taught that pride was the highest of > >> the > >> > > negative emotions. His criteria was the amount of life energy > >> available > >> > > when having the emotion. Pride had the most as compared to apathy > >> which > >> > > has the least and which he considered the lowest of the negative > >> emotions. > >> > > After pride come courageousness which in his teaching is the lowest > >> of the > >> > > positive emotions. Here's the scale from lowest to highest: > >> > > > >> > > apathy, grief, fear, lust, anger, pride, courageousness, acceptance, > >> > > peace > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > ------------------------------ > >> > > *From:* Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@> > >> > > *To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > >> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 4, 2013 7:12 PM > >> > > *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees" > >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > To put it another way paratha bill. > >> > > > >> > > I always question my humility - I always question myself if I was > >> being > >> > > sincere, honest and innocent in my expression of humility. I can > >> never be > >> > > sure - I can never guarantee my humility being untainted, uncorrupted > >> by my > >> > > self-interest. > >> > > > >> > > But I never question my arrogance - I know it's always an honest, > >> sincere, > >> > > authentic and innocent expression. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@ > >> ...>wrote: > >> > >> > > > >> > > No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years back he > >> > > claimed he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was extremely > >> > > fragile, emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always demanding > >> > > sympathy from others. He may have changed - I seriously doubt it. > >> > > > >> > > Having said that - he was very intelligent, a very practical approach > >> to > >> > > astrology that I liked and a very good astrology software he created > >> > > including one for Mac. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:18 AM, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Ann, > >> > > > >> > > Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON. He suffered depression for many > >> > > years. His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's Syndrome. > >> > > That's why he acts that way. > >> > > > >> > > JR > >> > > > >> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" <awoelflebater@> wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Jyotish according to Das Goravani. Does he qualify to be in this > >> forum? > >> > > > > > >> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls > >> > > > > >> > > > Thank you so much for posting this, my husband and I just had our > >> first > >> > > belly laugh of the morning. I mean, I am sorry, but I just couldn't > >> get > >> > > past the band aids plastered all over his face, the 70's second hand > >> store > >> > > garb, the psychedelic whirly gig background and his mannerisms that > >> > > appeared akin to a really hilarious takeoff of some travelling > >> sideshow > >> > > magician. Other than that I am sure the guy is brilliant... I'm just > >> not > >> > > evolved enough to appreciate him past the superficial hilarity of it. > >> Maybe > >> > > in my next life. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba <no_reply@> > >> wrote: > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPds0-hZ1tM > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@ <no_reply@> > >> wrote: > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfwu_TG3K7M > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqgGlgonEa4 > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > >
