All bad? Well, the other evening in Fairfield Rick hosted a guy who is awakened to talk about his experience. Seems a real nice man. No organization and evidently not a narcissist, not selling nothing. Just interested in simply sharing with folks. Not religion and not doing philosophy, not building an empire but just talking life given his experience. Was real interesting given his service and background which crossed Eastern and Western mysticism and spiritual practice. Not a TM'er but also steeped in meditation. In the midst of the talk he also pointed out the value of keeping the company of awakened or enlightened people in process, like with the Guru Dev quote advising people to seek the company of saints, mahatmas and wise people. Was a big turn out of Fairfiled folks for the meeting. Real nice. His Bio at http://batgap.com/francis-bennett/
--- In [email protected], "Ann" <awoelflebater@...> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], Michael Jackson <mjackson74@> wrote: > > > > You can think whatever you like > > Good to know. > > - these people who have lots of followers don't have them from a sense of > duty or doing good for humanity, they have the followers because they WANT > them - for money, sex, and to get attention - most of them anyway and in some > ways Barry is correct - if the "seekers" could realize the so-called gurus > don't know near what the followers think they know the world would be better > off > > I took issue with your statement that these two prove that all gurus and > "enlightened" people are frauds and shysters. I disagree that extrapolating > that conclusion from two random links to two random 'teachers' doesn't prove > anything. > > And yes, those who continue to support and don't confront others when faced > with evidence of wrong doing or just plain craziness is called enabling. > There are usually valid reasons in the minds of the enablers for why they do > this - reasons of self-servingness and need are just two of them. > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Ann <awoelflebater@> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 9:37 AM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A culture of PR and Spin, ending > > with...uh...more PR and Spin > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Michael Jackson <mjackson74@> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for posting this Barry - just goes to show all these gurus are > > > full of it - not a one of them has any integrity or "enlightenment" > > > > I am not sure two articles "goes to show all these guru are full of it". > > Those two men seem to be full of it as are thousands, maybe tens of > > thousands, more who set themselves up as people who think they know better > > or can teach others something due to their special access to some sort of > > experience or knowledge. > > > > Although I am perhaps one of the least likely people I know to follow any > > guru now I would hardly conclude from the article on Mr Cohen and the > > prostitute serial killer that there are no learned teachers (gurus) on the > > planet. I think there are probably much better examples of men and women > > out there who have something useful and profound to say who have yet to be > > revealed as child molesters, embezzlers and animal torturers. However, > > anyone who sets themselves up as some sort of guru is suspect in my > > estimation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: turquoiseb <[email protected]> > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 5:19 AM > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] A culture of PR and Spin, ending > > > with...uh...more PR and Spin > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÂ > > > Another faux guru bites the dust: > > > > > > http://whatenlightenment.blogspot.nl/2013/06/andrew-cohen-and-fall-of-guru-in-age-of_21.html > > > > > > At least Cohen seems to be leaving before turning out > > > like this guy: > > > > > > http://www.murciatoday.com/victim-count-of-false-shaolin-monk-may-rise-further_17175-a.html > > > > > >
