You could build a Faraday Cage.
No politician on the left is even whispering about being against this data gathering program; it's only on the right with Rand Paul that I see any push back at all. Go figure. What's up with that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage --- In [email protected], obbajeeba <no_reply@...> wrote: > > A quote from Mike Rivero of WRH about NSA spying and the new terror threat; > "So the official story is that the US Government, now blessed with a massive > global spy network that watches everyone, claims to have the "most specific > and credible" terror threat ever. > > So why don't they arrest the terrorists? > > Because of the terror attacks happens, it means one of two things. > > 1. This new "terror" attack is a false-flag operation; a faked event by a US > Government desperate to distract the American people from the > unconstitutional existence of that massive spy network, to distract the > American people from the IRS targeting of the President's political enemies > (an impeachable crime), to distract the American people from the exploding > scandal surrounding Benghazi, which appears to have been yet another > false-flag stunt to bolster Obama's re-election chances and re-ignite > Americans' flagging war fever. > > 2. None of the massive and costly security imposed by the United States > government on the American people and the rest of the world actually works. > If there is another terror attack it means that the grabbing of our crotches > (and looting of our luggage) by TSA does not work. If there is another terror > attack it means the NSA spying on Americans does not work. If there is > another terror attack it means the Department o Homeland Security, CIA, BI, > etc. do not work. > > Take your pick!" > > --- In [email protected], "Richard J. Williams" <punditster@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You two sound really paranoid - if you've done nothing > > > > wrong what are you worried about? > > > > > > Bhairitu: > > > This from somebody who posted under a different handle > > > because he didn't want his real name to be associated > > > with backpacks and pressure cookers. Now go figure. > > > > > Well, I figure nobody here wants their real name > > associated with backpacks and pressure cookers like > > some newbie did with you, but you don't have a real > > name, just a handle. > > > > So, I'm not convinced that our job on FFL is to fink > > on respondents that do Google searches. What is it > > with all the finks on FFL? > > > > Maybe we need the NSA to collect data on terrorists > > that might want to harm us, whether they are in this > > country or anywhere else. Apparently our ally countries > > can't seem to get the job done - there's probably a > > terrorist hiding under your bed, or several hanging > > out in downtown Oakland. > > > > A major attack by al Qaeda? I thought Obama said we > > hade won the war and they were dead; that we were > > bringing the troops home. Mission accomplished. > > > > Go figure. > > > > Didn't Obama say he killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan > > and Andwar Al-Awlaki and his teenage son, Abdul, in > > Yemen with a drone strike. You're saying that after > > ten years we haven't won the war against the terrorists > > yet, but we don't need a U.S. spy agency? > > > > WHAT!? > > > > > > > > The main business of the internet model is founded on > > > > mass surveillance, like Google, Yahoo!, and MyFace. > > > > > > My Face? > > > > > > > > > > > This sounds like another 'phony' scandal. So, yes, > > > > you're probably as smart as an 8th Grader. LoL! > > > > > > I really don't think the "powers at be" like the Internet very much. Too > > > easy for folks to expose their crimes. But the genie is out of the > > > bottle and they are having a helluva time putting it back in. First off > > > their own cronies are enjoying making money via the Internet so it can't > > > be hampered and certainly not shut down. > > > > > > "Only a few right-wing crazies believe that universal surveillance of > > > every American is necessary to US security. The National Stasi Agency > > > will fight hard and blackmail every member of the House and Senate, but > > > the blackmail itself will lead to the National Stasi Agency's wings > > > being clipped, or so we can hope. If it is not done soon, the Stasi > > > Agency will have time to organize a false flag event that will terrify > > > the sheeple and bring an end to the attempts to rein in the rogue agency." > > > > > > Paul Craig Roberts -- full article here: > > > http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2013/08/01/double-feature-bradley-manning-verdict-convicts-washington-and-hiding-economic-depression-with-spin-paul-craig-roberts/ > > > > > > Roberts is not a conspiracy theorist but Assistant Secretary of the > > > Treasury under Ronald Reagan. > > > > > > > > > > > Besides, President Obama and James Clapper both said > > > > that the NSA wasn't listening in on your phone calls. > > > Anyone assigned to listening to my phone calls would be very bored. > > > > > > > > Are you saying that they lied to us? Go figure. > > > > > > > > 'Is Your Cable Box Spying On You? Behavior-Detecting > > > > Devices From Verizon, Microsoft And Others Worry > > > > Privacy Advocates' > > > > http://tinyurl.com/mk57tz3 > > > > > > Find the camera and microphone and disable them. If they don't like that > > > then it is time for civil war. The latest thing was the discovery that > > > Samsung Smart TVs could be hacked. Paranoia Planet behaved like all TVs > > > could do this. Blame Samsung marketing for adding yet another gimmick to > > > sell more TVs. The idea was that folks (the usual non tech savvy > > > suspects) wouldn't need a computer to talk to grandma in Wisconsin. Of > > > course they didn't exactly think out stuff that well (it was probably > > > rushed to market to stay ahead of the competition) and a patch was sent > > > out to keep hackers from gaining access to see Willy watching "Gomer > > > Pyle" in the altogether. Of course that might be so disgusting they > > > might give up hacking. :-D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote: > > > >> I don't know how long it would take to write such a script because I > > > >> have no idea of what Snowden's expertise is. IT is a little different > > > >> realm than writing software applications. Most application developers > > > >> have enough savvy to create interfaces required if the app needs > > > >> Internet access. Most of us use cookbook solutions for that which now > > > >> instead of real books are searches on places like Stackoverflow.com . > > > >> > > > >> But when the Snowden news broke a while back I mentioned on tech blogs > > > >> that it might be giving tech company senior management pause to know > > > >> that the NSA would know all their new secret projects, the ones we sign > > > >> NDAs for. And of course that might concern more than just tech company > > > >> senior managers but also those in a lot other sectors. > > > >> > > > >> In the civilian sector, I suspect there are a lot more moral sysops who > > > >> won't look at emails. Not all would be that way but you do know that > > > >> without the protections of being a government agency employee they DO > > > >> risk getting caught by the SEC. And that would give many pause. > > > >> > > > >> We are actually fucked more by the people who don't give a fuck about > > > >> anyone else but themselves. They are smart enough to know that > > > >> religion > > > >> is a sham and they won't be going to some mythical thing called "hell" > > > >> if they steal. So they "just do it." That is the bottom line in that > > > >> film I mentioned the other day: "Assault on Wall Street." > > > >> > > > >> In a world of over 7 billion people these smarmy souls behave like > > > >> bandits in an "every man for himself" way. Screw the rest of us. The > > > >> fact is that our establishment has no good plans to deal with such a > > > >> population so they take that tact. Our world has been run for quite > > > >> some time by a criminal mindset. > > > >> > > > >> Ask Lloyd Blankfein of Goldman Sachs about their criminal activities > > > >> and > > > >> he will tell you "it is just doing business." > > > >> > > > >> On 08/03/2013 01:08 PM, Duveyoung wrote: > > > >>> Bhairitu, > > > >>> > > > >>> Okay, tell us: if you had Snowden's access and his computer-savvy, > > > >>> could you write a script in about 15 minutes that would: > > > >>> > > > >>> 1. Find the rich people. > > > >>> 2. Eavesdrop on them with software to filter out those who are > > > >>> investing regularly in the markets. > > > >>> 3. See real-time trends before the buys-and-sells are posted. > > > >>> 4. Make vast profits exploiting the markets with the Ultimate Bucket > > > >>> Shop Tool. > > > >>> > > > >>> I think your answer will be yes (with maybe a few quibbles.) > > > >>> > > > >>> If so, given that they say there are ONE MILLION "snowdens" with such > > > >>> powers, how could anyone reasonably expect that that many sysops are > > > >>> all certain to be sane, moral, and legal? > > > >>> > > > >>> Your answer: maybe 98% -- right? > > > >>> > > > >>> We're all being fucked by invisible dicks, right? > > > >>> > > > >>> Edg > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> --- In [email protected], Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote: > > > >>>> On 08/03/2013 11:25 AM, emptybill wrote: > > > >>>>> Snowden Warns Americans To Fear The Military-Intelligence Complex > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> by Chriss W. Street > > > >>>>> <http://www.breitbart.com/Columnists/Chriss-W-Street> 1 Aug 2013 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Unburdened by the Constitutional requirement to obtain a search > > > >>>>> warrant, > > > >>>>> those nice people at the National Security Agency (NSA) have teamed > > > >>>>> with > > > >>>>> Apple, Google and Microsoft to take time out of their busy day to > > > >>>>> capture all your party pictures from college, intimate letters with > > > >>>>> your > > > >>>>> lover and financial activities of your business in order to build a > > > >>>>> "permanent file" for leverage against you at a later date. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> These are just the latest depressing revelations about the rise of > > > >>>>> the > > > >>>>> military-industrial complex from whistleblower/traitor Edward > > > >>>>> Snowden as > > > >>>>> he accepted political asylum in Russia today. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Snowden's latest bombshell, via Glenn Greenwald at the UK Guardian > > > >>>>> <http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/31/nsa-top-secret-program-onl\ > > > >>>>> ine-data> , is the outing of the NSA's XKeyscore software that is > > > >>>>> vacuuming up "nearly everything a typical user does on the > > > >>>>> internet." > > > >>>>> The top secret program allows civilian contractors in the U.S. to > > > >>>>> troll > > > >>>>> vast databases containing emails, online chats and the browsing > > > >>>>> histories of millions of individuals around the world. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> The NSA boasts in training materials that XKeyscore is its > > > >>>>> "widest-reaching" system for developing intelligence from the > > > >>>>> Internet. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Snowden was already the "most wanted person on earth", but with his > > > >>>>> newly-awarded legal status in Russia he cannot be legally handed > > > >>>>> over or > > > >>>>> kidnapped by the CIA. Snowden remains a very "marked man," and > > > >>>>> seems to > > > >>>>> need to stay in the public eye to avoid accidentally being > > > >>>>> assassinated > > > >>>>> in some lonely hideout. Consequently,he will likely continue to > > > >>>>> talk to > > > >>>>> the international press and appears to have more information for > > > >>>>> future > > > >>>>> release. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Snowden's latest revelations will also add fuel to the intense > > > >>>>> political > > > >>>>> revulsion to Obama's 18-to-29-year-old voting bloc that was the key > > > >>>>> to > > > >>>>> miraculous reelection in the face of the worst economic performance > > > >>>>> since President Herbert Hoover. This group has already dropped > > > >>>>> support > > > >>>>> for Obama by a stunning 17% over the last seven weeks as Snowden > > > >>>>> informed them that when they look at their cell phone, Big Brother > > > >>>>> is > > > >>>>> looking at them. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> The timing of the Snowden release came the morning after senior > > > >>>>> intelligence officials testified to the Senate Judiciary Committee > > > >>>>> on > > > >>>>> Wednesday and released formally classified documents in response to > > > >>>>> earlier Snowden interviews by the Guardian. The testimony > > > >>>>> essentially > > > >>>>> admitted that the FISA Surveillance Court that supposedly assures > > > >>>>> Constitutional Fourth Amendment prohibition against unreasonable > > > >>>>> searches and seizures without "probable cause" does not apply to > > > >>>>> cell > > > >>>>> phones, computers and all online activity. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> The Obama administration, Intelligence Committee members and the NSA > > > >>>>> yesterday continued to vehemently deny Snowden's most controversial > > > >>>>> statement that: "I, sitting at my desk could wiretap anyone, from > > > >>>>> you or > > > >>>>> your accountant, to a federal judge or even the president, if I had > > > >>>>> a > > > >>>>> personal email." But Snowden's disclosures this morning seem to > > > >>>>> prove he > > > >>>>> and thousands of other NSA contractors could wiretap any American. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> But the training materials for XKeyscore detail how analysts can > > > >>>>> use it > > > >>>>> to mine enormous agency databases by filling in a short "on-screen > > > >>>>> form > > > >>>>> giving only a broad justification for the search", without > > > >>>>> obtaining a > > > >>>>> warrant from a judge. XKeyscore then provides the technological > > > >>>>> capability that once the NSA has the "metadata" of email or IP > > > >>>>> address > > > >>>>> to perform Digital Network Intelligence (DNI) covering all forms of > > > >>>>> electronic communications. Given that Apple, Google, Microsoft and > > > >>>>> others have already admitted to providing the NSA with email and IP > > > >>>>> addresses, that explains how XKeyscore was able to collected and > > > >>>>> store > > > >>>>> at least 41 billion total records in a 30 day period during last > > > >>>>> year. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> The NSA states: "These types of programs allow us to collect the > > > >>>>> information that enables us to perform our missions successfully--to > > > >>>>> defend the nation and to protect US and allied troops abroad." Some > > > >>>>> of > > > >>>>> that may be true, but the Boston Bombing happened despite direct > > > >>>>> Russian > > > >>>>> intelligence agency warnings about the militant activities of > > > >>>>> Chechen-born Tamerlan Tsarnaev. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Daniel Guerin warned in his 1936 book Fascism and Big Business to be > > > >>>>> vigilant against "an informal and changing coalition of groups with > > > >>>>> vested psychological, moral, and material interests in the > > > >>>>> continuous > > > >>>>> development and maintenance of high levels of weaponry, in > > > >>>>> preservation > > > >>>>> of colonial markets and in military-strategic conceptions of > > > >>>>> internal > > > >>>>> affairs." President Eisenhower updated that message with a similar > > > >>>>> warning to fear the rise of the "military-industrial complex." > > > >>>>> Edward Snowden has updated the message that Americans must fear the > > > >>>>> rise > > > >>>>> of the "military-intelligence complex." > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> They want us all to be like chickens in a coop. We have crazy > > > >>>> people in > > > >>>> charge of our corporate paid for government dependent on Americans > > > >>>> being > > > >>>> apathetic. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> And maybe they are planning a fireworks show for Barack's birthday > > > >>>> tomorrow. Maybe trying out their new EMF weapon on Syria? > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
