Re "Noise is no barrier to meditation simply because it doesn't matter what your response is ": I see what you're getting at but given a choice I'm claiming that 100 percent of people meditating would choose a quiet place and not a noisy one. There's got to be some advantage surely? I think one of the most distracting things is other people talking nearby as then I can get drawn into following their conversation. If a group sitting next to you were talking about sparaig's sex life would you be able to effortlessly return to the mantra?
--- In [email protected], "sparaig" wrote: > > Me thinks that you needed to get checked. > > Noise is no barrier to meditation simply because it doesn't matter what your response is, not because you can somehow handle the noise in some elegantly "spiritual" fashion. > > L > > --- In [email protected], "Seraphita" s3raphita@ wrote: > > > > Have you noticed that macho attitude some TMers strike where they claim > > they can meditate anywhere regardless of ambient noises - most > > infamously at a scandal-racked teacher-training course in Mallorca (?) > > when there were explosions going off in the out-of-season hotel car park > > during renovation work! > > I could never manage that trick - I need relative quiet. A few years > > back I was doing my evening session on bonfire night (November 5th) here > > in UK and about half-way through the entire street decided to set off > > their fireworks at the same time. Jesus! Since then I always meditate > > before darkness falls on that date. > > > > --- In [email protected], obbajeeba wrote: > > > > > > > > Many people imagine recording studios or places where music is played > > as noisy places in their minds. When in fact, they are usually the > > opposite much more of the time then there is sound. (As you mentioned > > above about the guys seeking the studio to "authentic Himalayan > > silence," is true.) Where there is music practiced and recorded, these > > are some of the best places to seek the silence. Kind of like the gap. > > > People imagine these places as big party atmospheres with no noise > > going to be heard of their own, or forced into hearing other sounds that > > they did not click on the stereo, tv, or mp3 ipod. > > > Total silence to total sound filling a place. So magical, both > > experiences. > > > Thanks for bringing that up. I have had that subject thrown in my face > > before in similar situations of conversation, and it is hard to explain > > sometimes, good point to share. :) > > > > > >
