they must-a toned it down a bit cuz when we asked about ritam during our sidhi prep courses in 1976-77 they always talked about it as something you would experience in your consciousness, not in literal physical reality
________________________________ From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com" <awoelfleba...@yahoo.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:24 AM Subject: RE: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Yes. I was halfway kidding, but it was the only way I could think of to pose the question, which was legitimate: if you acquire some physical object via Ritam, where does it come from? Is it created out of thin air just for you? Or did it already exist somewhere and was just brought to you? Another example they used was if you want an apple, you'll find one in your hand. I was tempted to ask if you'd get a specific variety of apple--Macintosh, Golden Delicious, e.g.--or if it would be a sort of generic cosmic apple. But given that they ignored my question about the phone book, I figured they either didn't know or had no interest in the details. Gimme a break, I'd only been meditating for around six months! I think it's great. I love asking really literal questions when you get the big spiel on things like ritam or other rather grandiose purported phenomena possibilities. It is perfectly natural to ask the questions you did and it also makes these people have to think a little and analyze how the thing might actually work beyond some airy fairy 'fact' that it does. More people should have taken the route you did instead of sitting there like numbskulls nodding their fool heads in wonderment. (Share?) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com> wrote: you're kidding, did you really ask if someone somewhere wold be missing a page? ________________________________ From: "authfriend@..." <authfriend@...> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 9:13 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace FWIW, as a mere meditator, I first heard about Ritam in either late 1975 or early 1976, on a residence course at which the teachers gave a lecture on the TM-Sidhis. Among the examples of Ritam they gave was the guy who needed to know a phone number, who would find in his hands the appropriate page of the phone book. I asked whether the page would have been generated de novo, or whether there was some poor shlump somewhere who would then have a phone book with a missing page. As absurd as the example was, I think it was actually a good theoretical question. After all, we were hearing about Ritam for the first time and had no idea what the mechanics involved. The teachers apparently assumed I was unstressing and ignored it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com> wrote: My old friend Edmund Taylor who now lives in North Carolina claims that it was in response to a question from him that Marshy first spoke of ritam - he says there's a tape of it in the TM archives - it had to be in the 1970's cuz that's when he did TTC - dunno if its true but that's what he claims ________________________________ From: "doctordumbass@..." <doctordumbass@...> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace >From the BATGAP forum. The context was world peace. This is a post I made, >over there, earlier this evening: "Kind of funny the way Maharishi used to talk A LOT about patience, and his analogy of selling pencils to earn money, one pencil at a time. Burned right through my youthful enthusiasm, and later, my ego, just long enough to make me realize, that he was expressing a time frame that operates on its own, leading surely to success. Helped me get past false expectations for myself, and the world. Allowed me to stay focused on the goal, which I thought was external for the longest time, and it *almost* is: Ritam Bhara Pragya. When I first heard about "Ritam", in the 1980's, it was in the context of immediate benefit, expression of the sidhis. Now I find out, backwards, that it is the state of mind, where the rhythm of the mind matches the rhythm of the universe. I found out backwards, because I was thinking about how to finish the sentence in paragraph two, and 'Ritam Bhara Pragya' came in, so I googled it, and found out it was exactly what I was trying to express. So, that's how stuff happens now. Further unfolding of the TMSP - full access to mind, matter, and everything in between. An expansion of living Brahman, where the difference between inside and out, practically disappears, this is another union, between an enlightened mind (intellect and heart in Yoga), and manifestation, or not, in the manifest world, the physical world. The deepest and most powerful impulses of creation make themselves known, not in any dramatic fashion, but in a way that is natural, and approachable, making as much sense as those more obvious laws in what I will call the most obvious world. Finally, such experience is incredibly useful! An entire landscape, conforming to Maharishi's expression, "do less, and accomplish more", opens up. A very different, yet deeply satisfying way of functioning, where any point in time or space, ranging from nanoseconds, to cosmic eons, is available. No gaps. Certainly, for myself, I am rarely greatly concerned about my well being. However, every human desires world peace, and I will always wait, and work, for that."
