thank you for posting this - its much better than Willy Tex's inane ramblings - I'm gonna get this book - it looks interesting
________________________________ From: "emptyb...@yahoo.com" <emptyb...@yahoo.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 10:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ishvara - The Transcendental Person Prairie Dog! If you knew more you'd be embarrassed by your claims. I've replied many times with the accurate and accepted scholarship that casts a harsh light on your antiquated conjectures. Your reply is a study in troll behaviors. You reply with "Maybe so ... but" and then continue repeating the same line. I have concluded that you really are just a type of troll ... with all the indications of dishonesty that term implies. However, for the sake of anyone reading this follow, up here is a text that examines Gautama Buddha's meditation teachings in light of his own claimed Brahmanic gurus. The Origin of Buddhist Meditation (Routledge Critical Studies in Buddhism) Alexander Wynne (Author) Publication Date: June 8, 2007 | ISBN-10:041554467X | ISBN-13:978-0415544672 | Edition: 1 Having identified early material that goes back to the Buddha himself, the author argues that the two teachers of the Buddha were historical figures. Based on the early Brahminic literature, namely the early Upanishads and Moksadharma, the author asserts the origin of the method of meditation learned by the Buddha from these teachers, and attempts to use them to identify some authentic teachings of the Buddha on meditation. Stimulating debate within the field of Buddhist Studies, the following claims are put forward: * the Buddha was taught by Alara Kalama and Uddaka Ramaputta, as stated in the literature of numerous early Buddhist sects, is historically authentic * * Alara Kalama and Uddaka Ramaputta taught a form of early Brahminic meditation * * the Buddha must consequently have been trained in a meditative school whose ideology was provided by the philosophical portions of early Upanishads Shedding new light on a fascinating aspect of the origins of Buddhism, this book will be of interest to academics in the field of Buddhist studies, Asian religion and South Asian studies. Willy Prairie Dog sez: Around here, if it looks like a yoga and it feels like a yoga, then it probably is a yoga. If it's a yoga, then it's probably a Buddhist yoga. There was no yoga in India before the historical Buddha. TM looks like it is yoga to me, so it's probably Buddhist yoga of some kind. Go figure. So, now we know the origin of the Buddhist yoga: in the Vajrayana sect of Mahayana Buddhism. According to what I've read, Vajrayana Buddhism was centered in Uddiyana, located in the modern day Swat Valley in what is now Kashmere, Pakistan and Afghanistan. The Tantric Buddhist yoga was imported into South Asia where it became Shaktism. Are you starting to follow the history now? "In 747 the Indian master Padmasambhava traveled from Afghanistan to bring Vajrayana Buddhism to Tibet and Bhutan, at the request of the king of Tibet..."