thank you for posting this - its much better than Willy Tex's inane ramblings - 
I'm gonna get this book - it looks interesting




________________________________
 From: "emptyb...@yahoo.com" <emptyb...@yahoo.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 10:16 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ishvara - The Transcendental Person
 


  
Prairie Dog! 

If you knew more you'd be embarrassed by your claims.

I've replied many times with the accurate and accepted scholarship that casts a 
harsh light on your antiquated conjectures. Your reply is a study in troll 
behaviors. You reply with "Maybe so ... but" and then continue repeating the 
same line.  

I have concluded that you really are just a type of troll ... with all the 
indications of dishonesty that term implies.

However, for the sake of anyone reading this follow, up here is a text that 
examines Gautama Buddha's meditation teachings in light of his own claimed 
Brahmanic gurus. 

The Origin of Buddhist Meditation  (Routledge Critical Studies in Buddhism) 
Alexander Wynne (Author) 
 
Publication Date: June 8, 2007 | ISBN-10:041554467X | ISBN-13:978-0415544672 | 
Edition: 1
 
Having
identified early material that goes back to the Buddha himself, the author
argues that the two teachers of the Buddha were historical figures. Based on
the early Brahminic literature, namely the early Upanishads and Moksadharma,
the author asserts the origin of the method of meditation learned by the Buddha
from these teachers, and attempts to use them to identify some authentic
teachings of the Buddha on meditation.

Stimulating
debate within the field of Buddhist Studies, the following claims are put
forward:
        * the Buddha was taught by Alara Kalama and Uddaka Ramaputta, as stated 
in the literature of numerous early Buddhist sects, is historically authentic 
        * 

        * Alara Kalama and Uddaka Ramaputta taught a form of early Brahminic 
meditation 
        * 

        * the Buddha must consequently have been trained in a meditative school 
whose ideology was provided by the philosophical portions of early Upanishads
Shedding
new light on a fascinating aspect of the origins of Buddhism, this book will be
of interest to academics in the field of Buddhist studies, Asian religion and
South Asian studies. 


Willy Prairie Dog sez:

Around here, if it looks like a yoga and it feels like a yoga, then it probably 
is a yoga. If it's a yoga, then it's probably a Buddhist yoga. 
 
There was no yoga in India before the historical Buddha. TM looks
      like it is yoga to me, so it's probably Buddhist yoga of some
      kind. Go figure.
 
So, now we know the origin of the Buddhist yoga: in the Vajrayana
      sect of Mahayana Buddhism. According to what I've read, Vajrayana
      Buddhism was centered in Uddiyana, located in the modern day Swat
      Valley in what is now Kashmere, Pakistan and Afghanistan. The
      Tantric Buddhist yoga was imported into South Asia where it became
      Shaktism. 
 
Are you starting to follow the history now?
 
"In 747 the Indian master Padmasambhava traveled from Afghanistan
      to bring Vajrayana Buddhism to Tibet and Bhutan, at the request of
      the king of Tibet..." 



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