I think in honor of the cool article turq posted today, we should henceforth speak only of prairie voles' holes (-:
http://synapticscoop.com/2013/10/02/the-neurobiology-of-cuffing-season-how-the-brain-influences-monogamy/ ________________________________ From: Richard J. Williams <[email protected]> To: Richard J. Williams <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2013 12:35 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] This is the last message in this thread, was Ishvara - The Transcendental Person It didn't take very long for this thread to go down a shallow 'Prairie Dog' hole. LoL! On 10/5/2013 11:12 AM, [email protected] wrote: >You are only able to repeat "ad nauseum" you shallow assertions. >This is more "high school report" quality. > > > >Them other eyes seeming to stare at you are your own. > >There's a mirror down in the Prairie Dog hole and yer >obviously making "him" nervous. > >---In [email protected], <punditster@...> wrote: > > >The term 'Isha' refers to Ishvara, the cosmic person, Paramatman or Brahman. >Ishvara is the supreme controller. According to the Isha, those who are >engaged in the worship of the demi-Gods enter into the darkest region of >ignorance, and still more so do the worshipers of the impersonal Absolute >alone. From what I've read, many of the adherents of Vedanta do not espouse >the Advaita Vedanta, instead they follow other traditions. According to Sri >Aurobindo, this Transcendental Person is not false - He is real, not an >illusion. > >So, where exactly did the non-dual notion enter into Indian polemics? If most of the seers taught dualism or qualified dualism, where did Shankara get the non-dualistic notions? Maybe Shankara got the maya idea from the Buddhists up in Kashmir. Go figure. > >The term 'Trika' mean three - that comes from the idea that there are three levels of consciousness: waking, dreaming, and sleeping, and a fourth called the Transcendental state. > >4. The Self is transcendental, immortal and beyond the mind and the senses. > >Read more: > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isha_Upanishad > > >On 10/4/2013 9:19 PM, emptybill@... wrote: >> > >> >>I'm not sure what you are claiming by these posting these quotes. >> >> >>I started reading Autobindo's Life Divine and Synthesis of Yoga in the fall >>of 1966 when I was a freshman in college. After starting TM, we couldn't >>understand why MMY never referenced him. Now we know why. Aurobindo never >>understood Shankara’s Advaita but rather interpreted it in terms of 19th-20th >>Century Western Idealist philosophy. >> >> >> >>By the way, all your quotes from A.C. Bhaktivendanta simply demonstrate how >>shallow your knowledge of the Gaudiya Vaishnava sampradaya is in the larger >>constellation of Indian darshanas. One of my friends was an early disciple of >>Prabhupad (1968). Over a 20 years period he spend 12 years traveling and >>doing sadhana in India. He also did specialized training in Pancharatra Vidhi >>in Udipi, South India to become a Western pujari. In fact he installed my own >>shivalingam with a traditional Pancharatra ceremony, replete with immense >>devashakti. >> >> >> >>I have read Rupa Goswami, have you? >> >> >> >>Wiki Willy may look impressive to people who don’t understand the principles >>involved but not much for those know even a little sad-dharma. >> >> >> >>Wake up and smell the Prairie Dog ganja. >> >> >>---In [email protected], <punditster@...> wrote: >> >> >>"The Personality of Godhead is perfect and complete, and because He is >>completely perfect, all emanations from Him, such as this phenomenal world, >>are perfectly equipped as complete wholes. Whatever is produced of the >>Complete Whole is also complete in itself. Because He is the Complete Whole, >>even though so many complete units emanate from Him, He remains the complete >>balance. " >> >>Invocation: >>http://vedabase.com/en/iso >> >>"The Ultimate Reality is two fulls - 200% of each. One who knows nescience side-by-side with the transcendent, can pass beyond repeated birth and death, and can enjoy the full blessings of immortality." >> >>Work cited: >> >>'Isha Upanishad' >>Translation by Sri Aurobindo >>Sri Aurobindo Ashram Trust >>Pondicherry, India 1914 >> >> >>On 10/4/2013 9:03 AM, iranitea wrote: >>> >> >>>The commentary of the Isha Upanishad, actually a very short Upanishad, was >>>later expanded by Aurobindo and served as the starting point of The Life >>>Divine, which is really his magnum opus. You are right, he didn't subscribe >>>to Shankaras Kevala, but would call his philosophy to be based on Bhedabheda. >>> >>> >>>Could you say, where you actually cite, and where you paraphrase? I didn't >>>find : the Ultimate Reality is two fulls - 200% of each. One who knows >>>nescience side-by-side with the transcendent,in his Isha commentary. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Richard wrote: >>>Because many of these good fellows (sadhus) do not ascribe to the illusion >>>theory, 'maya' proposed by the Adi. According to Sri Aurobindo, this >>>Transcendental Person is not false - He is real, not an illusion. >>> >>>Isha Upanishad: >>> >>>"The face of Truth is covered with a brilliant >>>golden lid; that do thou remove O'Fosterer, >>>for the law of the Truth, for sight." - Isha v 2 >>> >>>The term 'Isha' refers to Ishvara, the cosmic person, Paramatman or >>>Brahman. >>>Ishvara is the supreme controller. >>> >>>Sri Aurobindo wrote that the Ultimate Reality is two fulls - 200% of >>>each. One >>>who knows nescience side-by-side with the transcendent, can pass beyond >>>repeated birth and death, and can enjoy the full blessings of immortality. >>> >>>Work cited: >>> >>>'Isha Upanishad' >>>Translation by Sri Aurobindo >>>Sri Aurobindo Ashram Trust >>>Pondicherry, India 1914 >>> >>> >>>---In [email protected], <punditster@...> wrote: >>> >>> >>>So, since Krishna is the Absolute, he is in fact 'indescribably >>>different', (Acyenta >>>Bheda Bheda). At first this seems to be non-sensical, but if you think >>>about it, >>>it makes more sense, and if you remember what MMY said in CBG 1-6. >>> >>>According to MMY, Lord Krishna is the 'Transcendental Person', mentioned in >>>Bhagavad Gita. That means that He is beyond, or transcendental to, >>>phenomenon >>>- the relative world of change. >>> >>>Many of the Vedantists who composed the Vedic literature were dualists or >>>qualified-dualists, and others were mixed dualists and some were >>>qualified-dualists. While all the Upanishadic thinkers were >>>transcendentalists, >>>not all of them ascribed to the Advaita philosophy, non-dualism. >>> >>>In fact, there is good reason to doubt the Advaita of the Adi >>>Shankaracharya. >>>Because many of these good fellows (sadhus) do not ascribe to the illusion >>>theory, 'maya' proposed by the Adi. According to Sri Aurobindo, this >>>Transcendental Person is not false - He is real, not an illusion. >>> >>>Isha Upanishad: >>> >>>"The face of Truth is covered with a brilliant >>>golden lid; that do thou remove O'Fosterer, >>>for the law of the Truth, for sight." - Isha v 2 >>> >>>The term 'Isha' refers to Ishvara, the cosmic person, Paramatman or >>>Brahman. >>>Ishvara is the supreme controller. >>> >>>Sri Aurobindo wrote that the Ultimate Reality is two fulls - 200% of >>>each. One >>>who knows nescience side-by-side with the transcendent, can pass beyond >>>repeated birth and death, and can enjoy the full blessings of immortality. >>> >>>Work cited: >>> >>>'Isha Upanishad' >>>Translation by Sri Aurobindo >>>Sri Aurobindo Ashram Trust >>>Pondicherry, India 1914 >>> >>>Notes: >>> >>>nescience >>> >>>adjective >>> >>>from Latin nescient, present participle of nescire not to know, from ne- >>>not + scire to know — more at no, science. >>> >>>1. lack of knowledge or awareness >>>2. ignorance >>> >>>Synonyms >>> >>>benightedness, cluelessness, incognizance, innocence, ignorance, >>>obliviousness, >>>unawareness, unfamiliarity >>> >>>Examples: >>> >>>"The appalling nescience of today's high schoolers concerning >>>international affairs." >>> >>>http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nescience >> >
