Alara Kalama and Uddaka Ramaputta, the teachers of the historical
Buddha, of course were Sramanas of the Buddhist persuasion - that's why
they were practicing yoga and meditation. Not because they were Hindus
who reverted the Vedas.
There's no yoga mentioned in the Vedas - that came much later, and all
the Upanishads were composed AFTER the Buddha's demise.
The similarity between the views of Gaudapada and Nagarjuna cannot be
missed. Gaudapada himself acknowledges this when he says, "There are
some (shunyavadins) who uphold non-dualism (advayavada) and reject both
the extreme views of being and non-being, of production and destruction
and thus emphatically proclaim the doctrine of no-origination. We
approve", says Gaudapada, "of the doctrine of no-origination proclaimed
by them."
Swami Nikhilananda on Mandukya Up:
"From the fact that many Buddhist terms are used in explaining the
fourth state, such as Sunyata or emptiness, it is clear that this
commentary was written in an era when the concepts of the
Mulamadhyamakakarika school of Mahayana Buddhism were influential and
renowned."
Mandukya Upanishad:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandukya_Upanishad
On 10/1/2013 9:16 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
Prairie Dog!
If you knew more you'd be embarrassed by your claims.
I've replied many times with the accurate and accepted scholarship
that casts a harsh light on your antiquated conjectures. Your reply is
a study in troll behaviors. You reply with "Maybe so ... but" and then
continue repeating the same line.
I have concluded that you really are just a type of troll ... with all
the indications of dishonesty that term implies.
However, for the sake of anyone reading this follow, up here is a text
that examines Gautama Buddha's meditation teachings in light of his
own claimed Brahmanic gurus.
*The Origin of Buddhist Meditation (Routledge Critical Studies in
Buddhism) *
Alexander Wynne
<http://www.amazon.com/Alexander-Wynne/e/B001JCEE2S/ref=ntt_athr_dp_pel_1/180-4305227-2750419>
(Author)
Publication Date: *June 8, 2007* | ISBN-10:*041554467X *|
ISBN-13:*978-0415544672* | Edition: *1*
*
*
Having identified early material that goes back to the Buddha himself,
the author argues that the two teachers of the Buddha were historical
figures. Based on the early Brahminic literature, namely the early
Upanishads and Moksadharma, the author asserts the origin of the
method of meditation learned by the Buddha from these teachers, and
attempts to use them to identify some authentic teachings of the
Buddha on meditation.
Stimulating debate within the field of Buddhist Studies, the following
claims are put forward:
* the Buddha was taught by Alara Kalama and Uddaka Ramaputta, as
stated in the literature of numerous early Buddhist sects, is
historically authentic
*
* Alara Kalama and Uddaka Ramaputta taught a form of early Brahminic
meditation
*
* the Buddha must consequently have been trained in a meditative
school whose ideology was provided by the philosophical portions
of early Upanishads
Shedding new light on a fascinating aspect of the origins of Buddhism,
this book will be of interest to academics in the field of Buddhist
studies, Asian religion and South Asian studies.
Willy Prairie Dog sez:
Around here, if it looks like a yoga and it feels like a yoga, then it
probably is a yoga. If it's a yoga, then it's probably a Buddhist yoga.
There was no yoga in India before the historical Buddha. TM looks like
it is yoga to me, so it's probably Buddhist yoga of some kind. Go figure.
So, now we know the origin of the Buddhist yoga: in the Vajrayana sect
of Mahayana Buddhism. According to what I've read, Vajrayana Buddhism
was centered in Uddiyana, located in the modern day Swat Valley in
what is now Kashmere, Pakistan and Afghanistan. The Tantric Buddhist
yoga was imported into South Asia where it became Shaktism.
Are you starting to follow the history now?
"In 747 the Indian master Padmasambhava traveled from Afghanistan to
bring Vajrayana Buddhism to Tibet and Bhutan, at the request of the
king of Tibet..."
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