---In [email protected], <s3raphita@...> wrote:

 One comment I appreciate is this one from Denis Postle: "I've been doing TM 
off and on for decades. A key thing to appreciate about it is that it is a 
reliable way of taking us to the hypnogogic and hypnopompic junctions between 
sleep and awake and keeping us hovering there. With very tangible results . . . 
" 
 
 David Lynch says something similar in his book Catching the Big Fish. To those 
who wonder what "transcending" is like, Lynch says that everyone has already 
experienced it. When you're lying in bed at night waiting for sleep to come you 
occasionally have a sudden sinking feeling as your awareness dips towards 
unconsciousness. It feels rather disconcerting and actually jolts you awake. 
Lynch claims that TM is essentially training you to bounce around at that level 
as a regular routine.
 

 Ramana Maharshi recommended his followers to try a similar practice: when 
waking up in the morning keep your consciousness at the point where you've just 
emerged from sleep into conscious awareness but *before* any thinking kicks in. 
Maharshi claimed that learning to balance yourself at this razor's edge would 
enable you to see the true nature of the Self.

 

 Anyone want to claim Denis, Lynch and Maharshi are talking nonsense?
 

 Funny you should ask that because while reading their assertion it simply did 
not resonate with my experience. The transition between waking and sleeping is 
not transcendence in my book. It is full of thoughts and awareness that do not 
feel transcendental at all. But I have zero other evidence than my subjectivity 
and gut feeling to back this up.
 



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