Share watchers and CORRECTORS.
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 11:03 PM, <steve.sun...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Share, you must find this amusing at this point. My God, a slow day at > FFL brings out the craziness. > > You've heard of Kremlin watchers, or Fed watchers. Looks to me like we've > got Share watchers. > > Dissecting every word you say. > > A "Bevan cultist". Go figure. > > > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote : > > > Notice Share's redirection...just as Emily described. > > Share, I wasn't there, Feste wasn't there. You and Buck were, and > obviously the two of you disagree. I would take Buck's opinion over yours > any day because he has a more balanced view of Bevan, whereas you're a > Bevan cultist. > > > Judy, I still say Buck is wrong about that. As I said before, Bevan went > into detail about the mechanics of the TMSP. Such would not at all be > helpful for meditators. > > > > On Monday, March 10, 2014 7:45 PM, "authfriend@..." <authfriend@...> > wrote: > > Presumably Buck has a clue what he's talking about, and he said (see > below), "Nothing [Bevan] said really could not have been delivered in a > public lecture and it would have been insightful about Maharishi to anyone > listening and informative at any level." Guess you missed that, huh? The > money issue was a minor point in context. Emily's analysis of how Share > responds to any kind of challenge--by "redirecting...to a state of > complete meaninglessness within a comment or two"--is right on target. She > had also just done it in regard to Buck's comment about Bevan being "a > tragic figure." > > We've seen her do it many dozens of times, and not just with Emily. > Emily's point about Share's sense of her own "specialness" is also highly > apropos in this context. > > > Share's reply to you makes perfect sense. You had made a statement > implying that all the TM movement wants is money. Share made a succinct > comment, pointing out that the meeting was free, which gives the lie to > your idea. The point of the badge check is to ensure that everyone there > has learned the TM sidhis. If they haven't learned them, they wouldn't know > what the lecture was all about and might get some erroneous ideas, which > might make it less easy for them to get it right when and if they decide to > learn. It's very simple. Since you are not in the movement and never have > been, you don't really have a clue what you are talking about. In contrast, > Share is, and does. > > > Share, you always end up acting mentally challenged when you engage with > me. It is a very effective way to be for you. I am always impressed at > your ability to actively and consistently redirect any conversation we > might have to a state of complete meaninglessness within a comment or two; > I find it masterful in its own way. > > > Emily, the lecture was free. > > > These are the key points to me: > *"But all that said nothing he said really could not have been delivered > in a public lecture and it would have been insightful about Maharishi to > anyone listening and informative at any level."* > > > *"Tragic yes, he is a (the) guy who has ridden the whole movement > down...."* > > *The elitist and exclusionary nature of this "spiritual" organization is > just odd to me, an outsider. What on earth would have happened if > non-badge people attended? So what? Why not just sell tickets to everyone > and when the lecture is sold out, so be it. They want money, right?* > > *Share, you act like you are in some way special; I guess you've probably > paid for the right to be special. You might lose this specialness if you > move.* > > > Well, Buck, I was sitting by the entry door and there was only one guy > checking badges as people entered and as the lecture began, late arrivals > were swarming in. I'm not surprised that Bevan wanted a second badge check. > It kind of reminded me of the old sidhi meetings when we checked each > other's badges. Nice touch of nostalgia. > > > > On Monday, March 10, 2014 12:53 PM, "dhamiltony2k5@..." <dhamiltony2k5@...> > wrote: > > *He gave a really good presentation showing his own and MMY's handwritten > 1979 notes. It had a real nice flow. By going over his own written notes > and then the hand-written and colorful notes of Maharishi's hand he got to > do it twice, very teacherly. It was really a nice lecture. It would have > been nice to have had that lecture a while ago. A nice thing is that he > gave it at all now. If and when he dies the material like that will go with > him and be lost to time. But all that said nothing he said really could not > have been delivered in a public lecture and it would have been insightful > about Maharishi to anyone listening and informative at any level. Of course > if he was to meet any larger group gathered it would have had to be in the > Sondheim Auditorium, in town. The badge check though after everyone who had > come in already had been checked by security as they entered in was > certainly over the top putting you back in to kindergarten. * > > *He obviously did not get Raja Hagelin's recent policy memo on the > Fairfield, Vedic City, Jefferson County meditating community or he was set > anyway to do it his way. Tragic yes, he is a (the) guy who has ridden the > whole movement down from times of millions of meditators and tens of > thousands teachers and some large number of a hundred thousand or more > advanced practitioners, down to some few tens of hundreds active duty. And > he wonders why meditators have turned so badly and we just don't see. * > > *It is do or die time now for a teaching and the guys in the middle of it > are working hard on themselves to have it live. In this moment he was quite > contained and composed jockeying the moment. It was really well done. > Different people evidently bring different elements to it in committee at > that level now. Take a look at Shakespeare' s Roman General, Coriolanus and > that drama to see a swirl of elements governing TM put together now after > Maharishi. * > *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolanus > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolanus>* > > *Netflix has for download now a modern production as a movie. It is really > good criticism for the elements around TM now. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjRiylgwgIE > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjRiylgwgIE>* > > *If he'd just speak nicely to the people... * > *'damned democracy'. ..,* > *-Buck* > > sharelong60 writes: > Judy, I am content that Buck speak for himself. > > > authfriend > So tell us what you believe Buck meant by his comment. > > Judy, I'm sure Buck has many insights and opinions that I don't have. And > I have read his posts here so I have a pretty good idea of what he meant by > his comment. Based on my own experience, I have different insights and > opinions. > > > Think maybe it would be a good idea to ask Buck what he meant by "kind of > a tragic figure" before announcing that you don't agree? Is it conceivable > that he might have an insight that you've missed? > > I don't agree with Buck on that level either, Ann. I found Bevan to be > even more natural and articulate and considerate than he was a few months > ago at another knowledge meeting. Again, imho, he is very integrated and > has a generosity of spirit that to me does not indicate a tragic figure at > all. > > > Buck, given that Bevan went into some detail about the mechanics of the > TMSP, I thought it good that only sidhas were in the meeting and badges > were checked. Good because if meditators do become sidhas, they can then > more easily do the practice with simplicity. > > And the fact that it was Standing Room Only on such a beautiful Sunday > afternoon, indicates to me that such meetings with Bevan are very much > enjoyed by a lot of people. No tragedy in that imho! > > Buck said Bevan was a "tragic figure". This speaks to something beyond a > meeting with him, it speaks to something deeper and more personal, Share. > > > > > *Well, he is kind of a tragic figure but it was a nice meeting. Wish you > could have been there. I think you would have felt better about all the > things that upset you. And there was really nothing said that could not > have included regular meditators in the meeting. The specialness of the > 'badge checking' and all that was over the top specialness. But otherwise > it was a nice meeting that had some real nice insights in to Maharishi and > Maharishi's teaching. You should have been there,* > *-Buck* > > mjackson74 writes: > I wish I was gonna be there - I'd ask him a question or two, but I imagine > the mic would be turned off like they did that Indian guy in the David > Wants to Fly film. > > Dr. Bevan Morris, President of Maharishi University > of Management is meeting with the meditating > community today. Today, on Maharishi University > of Management campus.Dalby Hall,1:30 > pmBring a valid Dome badge to get > in.Be there or be square,-Buck > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
