I have heard that too, but it seems unlikely that he would have waited from
1999 to what, 2005 to do so? I think he was just loopy - I mean after all who
did his pronouncement hurt besides the teachers who had remained loyal to him -
the rogues went on teaching "authentic TM" as if they didn't give a damn what
Marshy thought.
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On Wed, 4/2/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and the Scorpion Nation
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 2, 2014, 4:28 PM
Seems I recall now the scorpion nation
precipitation happened as it became evident and was pointed
out to
Maharishi who was then holed up in his location with his
cultivated
groups of upper income followers that some Danish and
UK'er TM
teachers were out in the field teaching TM to common people
for less
than the set retail prices then. When these independent
rogues then
banded together that was seen as really going too far rogue
and some really
serious treachery too. Maharishi came down on that like a
ton of
bricks. Damned scorpions.
It
obviously was the oxytocin. UK'ers and the
Danish people must more naturally suffer from either tooo
high or too
low blood levels of oxytocin in a way that other movement
meditators
and TM teachers would not. That proly explains a lot of
this
behavior. Disruptive oxytocin levels is proly in their
cultural lack
of sunlight they naturally suffer or some lack in their
diet, the
water they drink or the air they breath. It is a sad
condition.
Maybe. But you've gotta admit that those Danes are
"Green" and in accord with the Laws Of Nature:
Copenhagen
Zoo Kills Four Healthy Staff Members To Make Space for New
Employees
In terms of our own natural
history and
sciences, very fortunately we don't got scorpions by
nature in Iowa.
Just the ones that get imported here. And, they don't
thrive here at all in our climate,-Buck
salyavin808
writes:Scorpion Nation?
Ah, that takes me back. 2005 it was, the TMO in the UK had
always been strong, and generous, we had three large
academies, a purpose built town and a network of lively
centres. Marshy's favourite group of devotees, always
willing to cough up for yagyas and any other project that
came along. Quite the role
model for a perfect society you'd
think.
I was
living in a TM centre at the time, not as a devotee, I just
needed somewhere to live. They had closed all the academies
to pay for the pundit project and encourage us to build
vastu ones. Even the
one I lived in which was pretty annoying but there you are.
But I wasn't a believer at that point, not by a long
stretch. I'd seen enough fraud and flakery and was there
strictly as a "take what you need and leave the
rest" type. And even that was wearing thin, I was
having to avoid all broadcasts on the Marshy channel because
they made my skin crawl, except for the weekly press
conference. Wish I'd taped some of that, that would be
youtube gold. Especially the one where Marshy said that the
reason the US hadn't caught Bin Laden was because of our
coherence creating and laughed! A surreal and disturbing
moment and Hagelin tried to deny he'd meant that but the
journalist wasn't convinced, me
neither.
Anyway,
after the Iraq invasion Marshy decided that was the last
straw and called the office at Skem to tell the assembled
governors that he was closing the movement in the UK as our
national consciousness was too poisonous to deserve what he
was offering. Amid
all the wailing, tears and protests Marshy asked if there
was any good reason why he shouldn't. Wish I'd been
there to answer that, first there is the obvious illogic of
the "feeding nectar to the scorpion" if the ME
worked then we need more TM not less. If it doesn't work
we might as well carry
on regardless. The idea that there is a critical mass
whereby the ME is bad until the threshold is passed and then
it becomes good is another layer of madness on top of all
the others. It did him no favours.
Then there's the political argument. No
one liked Tony Blair, he just wasn't as
bad as the opposition. That's how democracy works,
it's a crap system of government but better than the
alternative. Nobody prioritised war when they voted as every
party was in favour anyway. Most of the western world went
along with the idea that it would be quick and painless and
we'd be rid of a vile
dictator and be able to control the oil supply much
easier.
I don't know what the real reason was, maybe
Marshy actually believed his delusions about the world,
maybe he felt he had to act like it was all real regardless
of whether it made sense or not. Maybe he was just nuts at
that point, but he'd done it before with Denmark (?) for
something to do with the national leader saying the wrong
thing, can't remember what happened but it was well
trivial. The whole concept is petty and spiteful and really
upset a lot of friends of mine who sincerely believe all
this stuff. It seemed like a sort of megalomania
but he gave everyone the idea he was doing it for their own
good. Narcissism? Paranoia? They say he tripled the price
because a group of teachers from the UK asked him to lower
it.
Anyway, I
laughed when I heard about Scorpion land. It was the icing
on the cake really. I went off Marshy very early on, I
didn't believe a word of the vedic "science" I
thought Tony Nader and John Hagelin were either insane or
lying. I couldn't watch 10 minutes of the channel
without shuddering in terror. Then I heard about the Kaplan
letter and joined FFL so I could read it in the files
section. And then I thought I'd make just one
post....
mjackson74
asks:
Sal, having been highly
entertained by some references you have made regarding the
"scorpion nation" deal, I wanted to ask if you
remember where you were and what your reaction was upon
hearing of the [Maharishiji's] condemnation of your
country? Just
curious.
