--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Oct 30, 2005, at 3:53 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > >> --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> How do you reconcile the fact, which was mentioned > >>> on here in some > >>> detail, that M. sleeps a full eight hours or more > >>> and the fact that > >>> enlightened beings require little sleep? There are > >>> numerous other > >>> items which would bring into question M.'s > >>> "enlightenment". > >>> > >>> So the story goes. > >>> > >> > >> MMY is fully enlightened, no doubt about it, 100% > >> true. Nothing in the relative indicates anything > >> regarding enlightenment. All mind games and ego > >> positions. Vaj, have you ever interacted with MMY > >> personally? > >> > > > > I'm not sure what your point is, Doc. I've > > interacted with Maharishi many times, and > > based on those interactions I would never > > be tempted to assume that he is enlightened. > > But if you did *assume* or by leap-of-faith *believe* he was > enlightened you could possibly mistake a meditative experience for a > validation of the previously *assumed* state...there's the rub... > > I would bet before Dr. Pete experienced M. as "enlightened", he had > already accepted that fact. Above and beyond that he had been > conditioned--both verbally and subliminally--that M. was some species > of exalted person. If this is *not* true, I seriously doubt he (and > others) would have continued to invest both time and large sums of > money. > > Acceptance of any mental framework or sequence of objects in > consciousness will only self-validate themselves when at anytime > afterwards one experiences them from the level of the void (or "pure > consciousness"). Thus previously accepted ideas can and will present > themselves as (seemingly) genuine experiences (and "validation"). > They are a form of validation--but only of the thoughts we have > accepted at some level of our being. >
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