--- In [email protected], anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not at all. Not really meaning to get on your case. You did a good > job of quoting MMY. > > And not to pick on you in particular. I just get a sense sometimes > when reading threads such as this one that some people are living > too much in their conceptual worlds about what enlightenment is > supposed to be about based on formulaic expressions coming from a > variety of sources, be they MMY or Buddhist teachings or what not. > > Having done that for many years, I am very familiar with it. MMY's > teachings were always home base. And I presumed them to be > impeccable and the final word. Even though the topic was supposedly > ineffable, it never occurred to me that memorizing a huge conceptual > structure and ever learning more "fine points of knowledge" had very > little to do with the actual business of "progressing on a path" or > of recognizing one's own experiences for what they actually are. > > Sometimes, I would venture out of the MMY home base and study some > other teachings as an inspirational conceptual exercise. It was > natural to try to understand other systems of knowledge "in the > light of SCI" as MMY taught us to do. Eventually, I learned to > understand other conceptual frameworks in their own light, and began > to feel that MMY's words may not always be impeccable and the final > word. And some time later, I became much more interested in my own > growing experience of what's really going on here (meaning, in the > realm of consciousness) than in what MMY might have said about it > once. And along with that, I am thrilled and inspired to hear about > the growing experiences of others, in their own, authentic words, > not in the words of some conceptual structure originating outside of > their own experiences. > > So I just want to encourage that kind of interchange. > Cool! Yep, me too. Perhaps MMY provided a framework of understanding, a jumpstart of sorts, that then allows us after awhile to explore the realm of consciousness for its own sake, on our own terms. It seems to be both a good way to get started regarding the topic of consciousness (SCI, etc.), and a natural progression to move beyond it after awhile.
Much as we poke at MMY's faults, he did provide a far reaching framework for many of us to explore the realm of consciousness. For example, widely advertising that there are specific higher states, each with their own symptoms (*lol*). It isn't perfect, but at least gets the vehicle rolling in the right direction. Then we remember who is, and who isn't, really in the driver's seat, and the real ride begins! ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
