MJ, the other day you posted, in a reply to Fleetwood, a list of positive experiences you had during your TM days, such as witnessing and celestial perception. To what do you attribute such experiences if TM is, as you say here, mediocre and or mild?
On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 7:05 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Bucky, that is truly one of the most spiritual and egotistically arrogant and at the same time most ignorant things I have ever seen in FFL - but at least you are not incoherent like Willy Tex. TM is a mediocre meditation that all of you True Believers have to bollster in your own minds to make it superlative. If it were as grand as you say: Marshy and the Movement wouldn't have to lie to sell it, it wouldn't have left a trail of suicides and broken lives and it would ALREADY have been embraced by everyone in the world. Mild meditation backed by lying slick PR machine = TM. ________________________________ From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 7:54 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] MJ's Defamation of TM [Transcendental Meditation] Yep, MJ seems really hard-hearted around his hate of TM. Personally I feel concern for him. MJ's defaming of TM that he does so completely work at imposing feels out of balance mean-spirited anti-spiritual ignorance. It just can't be good for his subtle system or to the ultimate benefit of others. Whether the guru was doing girls all along or diverting money does not bother my meditation or change the science around meditation. The meditation evidently lives on for valid and good reasons in nature. The meditation is well taught, gives some good benefit and the movement could stand some ethical improvement. Pick the diamond out of the shit and move on. Nablusoss1008 proly has MJ pegged about right, a complete ignorant ass back-woods hillbilly south-facing porch upbringing. I feel compassion for MJ in the same way that the Unified Field is compassionate around transcendent spirituality. He just needs more quiet time, -Buck fleetwood_macncheese writes: yep - the world I inhabit is a MUCH bigger place than one where I would get all bent out of shape about a public figure, now gone. I thought Ronald Fucking Reaganwas a hell of a lot more evilthan Maharishi could ever be, and yet, I don't lose any sleep over it. fleetwood_macncheese wrote : This is my take on all of that: I don't care. Maharishi lived his life and is responsible for it. I live my life, and am responsible for it. I am not responsible for how Maharishi lived his life, or what he did. I learned his technique of TM and TMSP, end of story. I am sorry you and the other sad sacks feel you must continue to whine and complain about all of this. All it does is show me your lack of success with TM, and that, too, is not my issue. awoelflebater wrote : Here is one thing: Maharishi is dead. No one can shame him or get him to recant or apologize or even explain his supposed behaviour. I like your post on lots of levels. Not because I think people who truly do immoral or violent or horrendous deeds should be allowed to "get away" with them but because some things are not worth fretting about. Take what you want and leave the rest. Why bother to fume and grind your teeth over past deeds that, in the grand scheme of things, didn't amount to genocide, mass rape or pillaging or the decimation and destruction of the environment? There are so many other people to hunt down and bring to justice but MMY just doesn't seem like one of them. mjackson74@...> wrote : That's a bullshit excuse you are making for a man who was a fraud on all levels. You make it because you can't stand the idea of anything about TM being the lest bit, well shall we say not "100% life supporting. Einstein never claimed to be a lifelong celibate. Marshy did. And not only did he make that claim into a lie by sleeping with his followers, he told them all to be celibate to make the gals more horny and make sure no other men were going to cut him out of his intended conquests. Had you been an older man, had children sooner, how would you have felt had your daughter wound up being one of Marshy's conquests? My statement was not however limited to his sexual proclivities, it covers all of his deceit and deliberate lie and manipulation of many people, none of whom he gave a shit about. He used people and threw them away. If you can condone that kind of behavior, then I don't think the kind of enlightenment you have achieved through TM is worth much. "fleetwood_macncheese [FairfieldLife]" writes: Subject:Re: [FairfieldLife] Meditating has instant effect on reducing stress Did you know Einstein had affairs constantly? Does that invalidate your knowledge of his Theory of Relativity? I think you wanted Maharishi to be some sort of god-like, parental and paternal, authority figure. Then when he turns out to have a personality all his own, all you spiritual kiddies go to pieces, making it your apparent life's work to get back at "Dad". Pretty pathetic, if you ask me. mjackson74 wrote : In fact, Marshy could easily be described as a spiritual degenerate, rather than an example of spiritual regeneration. Subject:Re: [FairfieldLife] Meditating has instant effect on reducing stress MJ? Yes, MJ's evidently apostate and infamous TM defamer on the internet too. It is just sinful anti-science what MJ does working the internet the way he does. -Buck in the Dome sharelong60 writes: MJ, you left out Apostate. Proud to be that too? "Michael Jackson mjackson74@[FairfieldLife]"FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I am proud to be a TM Quitter and Neganaut.
