Lawson, I'm sticking with the point I made earlier. You actually seem
to believe that you're coming across as rational while accepting Tony
Nader as the "king" of a made-up "kingdom" that does not exist,
except in the minds of a bunch of cultists. You've also presented
reasons why this made-up "king" should be able to pass control of his
made-up "kingdom" to his heirs.
I'm merely making the point that all of this is FUCKIN' NUTS.
There is no kingdom. There is no king. All of these this is made up,
pure fiction. Only fools or cultists would believe in it.
Which are you?
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*From:* "lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]"
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*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
In fact, according to what I have heard, Girish Varma attempted to
wrest control of the Indian TM organization away from Tony abu Nader,
but both sides agreed to let Swami Vasudevananda Saraswati (the
Shankaracharya the TM organization recognizes) be the aribrator for
the disupute, and after reviewing all the legal documents, SVS sided
with Tony abu Nader, so even in India, Good King Tony rules the TM
organization, at last officially.
L
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <mjackson74@...>
<mailto:mjackson74@...> wrote :
I don't think who controls is that simple - Girish and his cousins
the Srivastavas boys have a good deal of control but there are other
Marshy family members and hangers on who control a good deal of it,
but they give the American contingent a lot of leeway since America
has been such a fat cash cow for the Movement. They all give each
other some respect since they are all hogs slopping at the same trough.
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*From:* "LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]"
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*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
You guys are fond of quoting newspaper articles claiming teh TM
organization is worth billions.
That's a pretty hefty kingdom, if it really is worth that much, and
whoever controls the crown, controls whatever the asserts are wroth.
As an aside, anyone ever wonder at how silly people have to be to
entertain so many contradictory ways of looking at things?
L
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <turquoiseb@...>
<mailto:turquoiseb@...> wrote :
Lawson, you're a hoot. You really do believe that there could
possibly be "succession issues" with regard to a "kingdom" that
doesn't exist. How sweet and brainwashed of you.
I always wondered for who's benefit the King was for, turns out it's
Lawson. Go figure.
Arise Sir English!
I often wonder how well the TMO would do if it just sold meditation
rather than a pre-packaged kingdom with all bases covered from
teabags to divination and invincible homes. Maybe they wouldn't
alienate absolutely all but the most feverishly needy. Maybe it would
be a big success or maybe it would sink without trace in a crowded
market place. I don't suppose we'll ever know.......
For that matter, it's pretty brainwashed and unrealistic of you to
believe that the TMO could *last long enough* to need someone to
replace Tony Nader...
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*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
Um....
King is generally a hereditary position and in fact, I recall that
Maharishi emphasized that when he talked about Tony abu Nader.
In fact, for a very long time,. I was wondering how the heck King
Tony was going to have kids if he was totally celibate.
And it turns out he wasn't.
Problem solved.
Though, of course, his daughters might not qualify to be "king" in
the male-dominated TM organization, and might not want to be ruler of
the Global Country of World Peace even if one or the other DID qualify.
I rather suspect that Maharishi had some alternate way of selecting
King Tony's successor if he only had girls and/or none of his
offspring were deemed suitable heirs to the throne.
Maharishi, more than anyone else, would have some sense about how
unclear succession issues can bring about huge fragmentation in an
organization such as the TMO, and given how meticulously he planned
everything else, I would be greatly surprised if he hadn't planned
for that eventuality as well.
L
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <turquoiseb@...>
<mailto:turquoiseb@...> wrote :
Just to follow up, in case there there the possibility of a follow-up
implicit in this question, I have never met either Tony Nader nor his
wife. Both were long after my time in the TMO. I know nothing about
either of them than stuff that's been discussed here or on a Usenet
forum called alt.meditation.transcendental or (in the case of Da
King) official TM forums and press releases. If you stumbled on my
name as a budding critic of the royal couple, I admit that if you
searched the Net you might find parodies or criticisms I've written
in the past about them.
But I really did that because it was such a SETUP, man. I mean, the
*literal* king of TM, presented for decades as celibate and the very
personification on Earth of bramacharya, turning out to have had a
wife and kids for all these years? That's pretty classic, and if I
poked fun, I hope you can understand that I really had no choice. The
SETUP was just too compelling. :-)
That said, I don't really have any strong feelings about the Naders,
Mr. and Mrs. For all I know he might be an OK guy to chat with, if I
could get a few beers and a joint into him before we started. My take
on him is that he'd need that much just to get real. :-)
But if I were to ever offered the opportunity to sit down and have a
conversation with either of them, it would be Mrs. Nader I'd go for,
in a heartbeat. I know *nothing* about her other than that she's
French. THAT, plus the fact that she managed to find a way to be the
Invisible Wife Of A King make her in my book a *great* person to talk
to. I would pay *money* to be able to chat with her about what it was
like to be the Invisible Queen -- just the two of us, off the record,
just shootin' the shit, just giving her the opportunity to express to
*someone* what a long, strange trip it must have been.
I'd bet she has some GREAT stories to tell. I'd much rather hear them
than ANYTHING her husband could ever say, either on or off the
record. Besides, they'd be in French.
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*Sent:* Sunday, August 3, 2014 12:40 PM
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I don't believe I ever said that, no. In fact, I don't believe I've
ever heard anyone *else* say that, either. So if you've heard such a
rumor, dish. :-)
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*From:* "Emmerich Galler espiderman108@... [FairfieldLife]"
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*Sent:* Sunday, August 3, 2014 12:25 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
Have you been the person, who claimed that Tony Nader's wife does not
practice TM?
Regards
