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*From:* "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2014 1:11 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
"BarryWorld" consists of Barry making posts to amuse himself. It has
no other purpose.
"SpiteWorld" seems to be where people who are not amused by his posts
choose to live. Some of them seem to be SO not amused lately that they
have crossed the line into obsessive hatred.
As amusement park rides go, I think mine's a more fun place to live.
But FYI, if I had designed BarryWorld only to be navigable by those
with an IQ over 120, I wouldn't have bothered to post it to Fairfield
Life. :-)
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*From:* "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Monday, August 4, 2014 10:27 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
This whole discussion is just text to me. You are all fictional
characters — shall I compare you to reality? Now BarryWorld sounds
like a great amusement park, at least from the viewpoint of onlookers
outside the park. Inside the park, the goal is to get to the other
side of the park. After some experimentation, perhaps the filtering
algorithm could be adjusted so that, on average, only those with an IQ
of, say, 120 would make it to the other side. Designing the 'rides'
should be a blast. For example in The Crop Circles of Machiavelli
ride, one has to navigate a seemingly endless circular labyrinth of
spiritual-political mayhem in order to come out as the leader of other
ride participants in your group by convincing them you are an
enlightened messiah, that you know the secret knowledge of how to get
to the other side of the park. And in order continue that at the next
park benchmark, you have to set up a spiritual blockade to prevent as
many other ride participants from advancing by creating a new religion
that will bamboozle them into giving up independence of thought. In
other words BarryWorld is an interactive social experience and each
'ride' allows one to navigate one's internal conceptual world and
adapt it to override and overmaster the other participants internal
map of reality. The goal is to discover the park's map of reality and
make it your own, for if you do not, you cannot make it through.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
Sentence of the week:
"You obviously have a difficult time dealing with that, which doesn't
conform to BarryWorld. You watch your medieval fantasies, for hours,
in your rented room, absorbed to the point of comparing fictitious
characters, to live human beings, and yet it is Lawson, that is, as
you so uncontrollably put it, "fucking nuts." :-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fleetwood_macncheese@...> wrote :
really gets to you, huh? Perhaps time for a walk, dude...
You obviously have a difficult time dealing with that, which doesn't
conform to BarryWorld. You watch your medieval fantasies, for hours,
in your rented room, absorbed to the point of comparing fictitious
characters, to live human beings, and yet it is Lawson, that is, as
you so uncontrollably put it, "fucking nuts." You also claim with no
further proof, than your word, that you have personally witnessed,
invisibility and levitation, and rooms filled with golden light, and
it is, again, Lawson, that is "fucking nuts"? Well, I am sure that I,
along with those on this forum, agree that *someone* is "fucking
nuts", though I'll let you figure out who it is.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote :
Lawson, I'm sticking with the point I made earlier. You actually seem
to believe that you're coming across as rational while accepting Tony
Nader as the "king" of a made-up "kingdom" that does not exist, except
in the minds of a bunch of cultists. You've also presented reasons why
this made-up "king" should be able to pass control of his made-up
"kingdom" to his heirs.
I'm merely making the point that all of this is FUCKIN' NUTS.
There is no kingdom. There is no king. All of these this is made up,
pure fiction. Only fools or cultists would believe in it.
Which are you?
*From:* "LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Monday, August 4, 2014 5:05 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
In fact, according to what I have heard, Girish Varma attempted to
wrest control of the Indian TM organization away from Tony abu Nader,
but both sides agreed to let Swami Vasudevananda Saraswati (the
Shankaracharya the TM organization recognizes) be the aribrator for
the disupute, and after reviewing all the legal documents, SVS sided
with Tony abu Nader, so even in India, Good King Tony rules the TM
organization, at last officially.
L
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :
I don't think who controls is that simple - Girish and his cousins the
Srivastavas boys have a good deal of control but there are other
Marshy family members and hangers on who control a good deal of it,
but they give the American contingent a lot of leeway since America
has been such a fat cash cow for the Movement. They all give each
other some respect since they are all hogs slopping at the same trough.
*From:* "LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Monday, August 4, 2014 7:27 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
You guys are fond of quoting newspaper articles claiming teh TM
organization is worth billions.
That's a pretty hefty kingdom, if it really is worth that much, and
whoever controls the crown, controls whatever the asserts are wroth.
As an aside, anyone ever wonder at how silly people have to be to
entertain so many contradictory ways of looking at things?
L
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote :
Lawson, you're a hoot. You really do believe that there could possibly
be "succession issues" with regard to a "kingdom" that doesn't exist.
How sweet and brainwashed of you.
I always wondered for who's benefit the King was for, turns out it's
Lawson. Go figure.
Arise Sir English!
I often wonder how well the TMO would do if it just sold meditation
rather than a pre-packaged kingdom with all bases covered from teabags
to divination and invincible homes. Maybe they wouldn't alienate
absolutely all but the most feverishly needy. Maybe it would be a big
success or maybe it would sink without trace in a crowded market
place. I don't suppose we'll ever know.......
For that matter, it's pretty brainwashed and unrealistic of you to
believe that the TMO could *last long enough* to need someone to
replace Tony Nader...
*From:* "LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Monday, August 4, 2014 3:49 AMre
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
Um....
King is generally a hereditary position and in fact, I recall that
Maharishi emphasized that when he talked about Tony abu Nader.
In fact, for a very long time,. I was wondering how the heck King Tony
was going to have kids if he was totally celibate.
And it turns out he wasn't.
Problem solved.
Though, of course, his daughters might not qualify to be "king" in the
male-dominated TM organization, and might not want to be ruler of the
Global Country of World Peace even if one or the other DID qualify.
I rather suspect that Maharishi had some alternate way of selecting
King Tony's successor if he only had girls and/or none of his
offspring were deemed suitable heirs to the throne.
Maharishi, more than anyone else, would have some sense about how
unclear succession issues can bring about huge fragmentation in an
organization such as the TMO, and given how meticulously he planned
everything else, I would be greatly surprised if he hadn't planned for
that eventuality as well.
L
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote :
Just to follow up, in case there there the possibility of a follow-up
implicit in this question, I have never met either Tony Nader nor his
wife. Both were long after my time in the TMO. I know nothing about
either of them than stuff that's been discussed here or on a Usenet
forum called alt.meditation.transcendental or (in the case of Da King)
official TM forums and press releases. If you stumbled on my name as a
budding critic of the royal couple, I admit that if you searched the
Net you might find parodies or criticisms I've written in the past
about them.
But I really did that because it was such a SETUP, man. I mean, the
*literal* king of TM, presented for decades as celibate and the very
personification on Earth of bramacharya, turning out to have had a
wife and kids for all these years? That's pretty classic, and if I
poked fun, I hope you can understand that I really had no choice. The
SETUP was just too compelling. :-)
That said, I don't really have any strong feelings about the Naders,
Mr. and Mrs. For all I know he might be an OK guy to chat with, if I
could get a few beers and a joint into him before we started. My take
on him is that he'd need that much just to get real. :-)
But if I were to ever offered the opportunity to sit down and have a
conversation with either of them, it would be Mrs. Nader I'd go for,
in a heartbeat. I know *nothing* about her other than that she's
French. THAT, plus the fact that she managed to find a way to be the
Invisible Wife Of A King make her in my book a *great* person to talk
to. I would pay *money* to be able to chat with her about what it was
like to be the Invisible Queen -- just the two of us, off the record,
just shootin' the shit, just giving her the opportunity to express to
*someone* what a long, strange trip it must have been.
I'd bet she has some GREAT stories to tell. I'd much rather hear them
than ANYTHING her husband could ever say, either on or off the record.
Besides, they'd be in French.
*From:* "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, August 3, 2014 12:40 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
I don't believe I ever said that, no. In fact, I don't believe I've
ever heard anyone *else* say that, either. So if you've heard such a
rumor, dish. :-)
*From:* "Emmerich Galler espiderman108@... [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, August 3, 2014 12:25 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Tony Nader wife
Have you been the person, who claimed that Tony Nader's wife does not
practice TM?
Regards
