Re Fulfillment of all desires could be just that - lack of desire.: That's my understanding. There's a school of thought that says that when we desire some satisfaction our equilibrium is disturbed which we experience as suffering. When we satisfy the desire we feel good and naturally assume it is the pleasure we've just experienced that is making us content. But could it be that we're getting rid of the irritant that disturbed us and are simply re-establishing our natural balance and so are just happy being ourselves which is fulfilling in itself.
New desires almost immediately spring up and we're off again. Buddha seems to be suggesting that cutting off the flow of tempting images which constantly enter our minds to entice us could be the solution. Dostoevsky, he say, "The trouble with man is that he's happy but doesn't know it." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <punditster@...> wrote : On 8/25/2014 8:59 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Re "I have never met a single TM'er who could honestly say they had fulfilled all desires": And yet, . . ., and yet . . . Isn't it the case that *when you are meditating* you often enter a state in which your quotidian desires no longer impinge on your consciousness and you are happy to remain just where you are. True, one could say the same thing about being asleep, but Indian philosophers have often taken the deep sleep state as a paradigm for enlightenment. No desires = fulfillment of desires. Very good point. I think of ignorance as being chock a block full of desiring. Those who feel nothing but the relative are voracious in their appetite for all things material including power and fame if they can get it. Fulfillment of all desires could be just that - lack of desire. > In Tibetan Dream Yoga, maintaining full consciousness while in the dream state is part of Dzogchen training. This training is described by Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche as 'Rigpa Awareness'. Lucid dreaming is secondary to the experience of 'Diamond Light'. Rigpa Awareness is very similar to 'witnessing sleep' in TM, which helps the individual understand the unreality of waking consciousness as phenomena. Apparently the EEG patterns are the same in Rigpa Awareness as in TM. Read more: 'Tibetan Yoga Of Dream And Sleep' by Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche Snow Lion, 1998 >
