of course. sort of common sense. 

 but don't take away from Barry's mansize boner.  He works hard for those.
 

 And getting an endorsement from Dr. Pete, even if it was sort of skewed?
 

 As Mastercard says, "priceless"
 

---In [email protected], <noozguru@...> wrote :

 They use buzzphrases because they don't know what to say and so fall back on 
those.  They're also on camera so feel they have to say something.  I recall 
putting experiences into your own words sometimes got one weird looks back 
then.  But then it's an abstract experience and difficult to put into words 
(because words tend to fall short).
 
 The higher ups were, of course, doing "marketing".  Note that Maharishi sorta 
improvises on the segment with him.  Also striking was for how "century of the 
self" the responses were.  It's all about the "individual" hence in step with 
"me" meme of the time.
 
 On 09/04/2014 05:30 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   Dr. Pete, who commented on this video on Facebook today (where I saw it, 
because he's a FB Friend of mine), seems to agree more with my characterization 
of these people as brainwashed than he agrees with yours. Sure, they were 
young, idealistic, and inspired. They were *also* brainwashed, repeating the 
exact phrases they'd been taught to repeat verbatim, all without having ever 
seen -- or even *asked for* -- any evidence that they were true. 
 
 I'm gonna stick with "brainwashed" and "cultists." One of the reasons I like 
Dr. Pete is that he has no problem describing his own time with TM the same way 
and admitting that he was part of a cult. But then he's a shrink...in 
retrospect probably the only way he *can* justify having been so stupid as to 
believe the things we believed back then is to point out the systematic, 
decades-long indoctrination that led to us believing them. Since what he wrote 
is in public view on FB, I guess I can pass along one of his other comments 
that I found perceptive:
 
 "I helped produce several videos for various MIU functions in the 1980's and 
it was always a problem to get people to talk about their experiences in their 
own words rather than in TM jargon. It was the worst with people 'higher-up' in 
the movement. I interviewed one person, who is in this video too, who kept on 
saying that he experienced the 'home of all the laws of nature' when he 
meditated. I asked him, off-camera, if he actually had this experience or if 
this was a concept he had from MMY. He couldn't distinguish between the two 
which was rather shocking."
 
 Another former FFLer who is actually seen in the video describes it in the 
comments thusly: "How embarrassing. Now I see why TM lost its popularity and 
the university changed its name." 
 
 

 From: feste37 <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected]
 To: [email protected] mailto:[email protected] 
 Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2014 1:43 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MIU Promo Video 1981
 
 
   No, not brainwashed. Young, idealistic, enthusiastic, inspired. I was there 
in 1981, and it was a good place to be. 

 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], 
<turquoiseb@...> mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote :
 
 The shock is not how incredibly brainwashed these people are as they parrot 
buzzphrases and display absolutely no individuality whatsoever. The shock is 
that 34 years later people still think like this and talk like this, some of 
them here on this very forum. 
 
 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bteLrKEfj3g&feature=share 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bteLrKEfj3g&feature=share
 
 
 

 








 
 











 
 



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