On 9/6/2014 7:11 AM, Michael Jackson [email protected]
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
Might be time for you to check your own samskaras Ann.
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Non sequitur. It might be time to check your ability to read and
understand Sanskrit and then show some credentials. It has already been
established that there only one linguist on this forum that can read and
write Sanskrit.
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*From:* "[email protected] [FairfieldLife]"
<[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
*Sent:* Friday, September 5, 2014 10:58 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Reading or Not Reading Posts
---In [email protected], <anartaxius@...> wrote :
How does a human demonstrate he or she is honest? Maharishi and TM are
the main axes that FFL, at least originally revolved around. The TM
movement and its leaders seem to me to show certain deviations from
open-hearted honesty.
Such is the nature of human beings, especially those that cling to
imaginary concepts. It is extraordinarily difficult to defend
something as true and real when it is imaginary. Our business here is
sorting it out. that leaves some on the side of finding things out,
and others digging in to preserve the fantasy. We all make strange
mistakes along the way.
Unlike some here, I have always had the feeling that Maharishi knew
that enlightenment was not what it was said to be. According to the
way enlightenment is verbally defined, it could never actually be what
it is said to be.
Barry, Michael, others basically bring to light here people's
samskaras, to use an Hindu term that means imprints left on the mind
by experience. In Western thought the term 'engram', coined by Richard
Semon in the very early 20th century represents the same or similar
concept, that every psychological state corresponds to alterations in
the nerves and that experience left mnemic traces in the nervous
system. The term was later co-opted by Ron Hubbard when he made up
Scientology. Meditation is a classic technique for loosening and
diminishing these traces, and if enough loosening and diminishing is
accomplished, the mind might see through its belief structure and get
a glimpse of how it fabricates its version of reality, and once that
happens the real work of spiritual growth can begin.
The basic technique to bring certain kinds of samskaras to light (and
not to remove them necessarily) is simply to attack a person's system
of belief. A belief is an assumption that something is true without
any relevant evidence that it is so, in other words, a belief is a
pretence to knowledge. This method does not really work all that well
with other kinds of traces left in the system such as shell shock
(PTSD), but on a forum basically you have various people with
divergent pretences to knowledge, and when you counter a pretence, you
get a reaction.
This is my reaction to your short and largely uninformative post,
self-reported 'honest' Dan. The (apparently) late Judith Stein who
posted here often extolled her honesty, but I think that is a bad tack
to take considering we are humans. If we have to extol our alleged
perfections, perhaps there is something hiding in a dark corner we
would rather others not find. So far you have not helped. You need to
say more. Just saying something is not so, does not make it not so.
Wow Xeno, for a guy who has seen a few years, transcended a time or
two and who ploddingly, dryly picks apart most subjects you certainly
seem to miss the proverbial boat a lot. Do you ever break out of a
shamble? Does red blood pump around in blue veins? Do you get angry,
excited, passionate about anything? Bawee and MJ do NOT bring to light
anyone's "samskaras" except what might exist as their own. These two
are not catalysts for bringing to light anything but their own hanging
on to past injury and perceived injustices which have resulted in
anger and disappointment disguised as righteous desire to shake people
up. Whatever they are doing simply pinpoints their own hanging on and
resentment and for you to encourage or congratulate them is to
illustrate your own limitations. Check the fluff box now.
---In [email protected], <[email protected]> wrote :
I call Bullshit!
"they are often related to issues that FFL was designed to investigate."
Just helping,
Honest Dan
