Reflection is inner, anything involving memory, inner. Outward engagement, social engagement, is outer. Probably the closest mix of the two is doing this writing, since I am acting and reflecting in about equal measure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <anartaxius@...> wrote :
I have to head for the hospital in a moment but I am curious. How do you experience inner versus outer? What is that like for you? If you replay I can read it later, if there is a later. From: "fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] thoughts on samskaras and enlightenment - CC to UC It is an automatic process, Richard. The Self begins to witness in every moment, so that rather than having any attention, on giving up anything, it actually becomes impossible to be attached to anything. This can't be understood in the waking state. Once a person lives in freedom, a person can tackle any situation successfully. Life becomes as simple as we want it to be. Attachment is impossible, so even the most joyful and the most painful moments will pass. Contrary to what the rational mind may think, the witness capability, is not some sort of anesthetic. As Ann and I were discussing, life is so visceral, sensual and alive within itself, that even the witness revels in fullness. Everything is uncovered and seen for what it is. The inside and outside are balanced. Attachment, and its consequent delusion, are impossible, in a life lived in eternal freedom. No need whatsoever, to think about non-attachment. It is automatic, after awhile. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <punditster@...> wrote : On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 7:11 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote: As I mentioned, it becomes a matter of choice. Everything is now visible. It becomes a choice to entertain it or not. Any precepts become silly, like the earlier waking state discussion regarding anger. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : Richard, what feels right to me is the idea of "roasted" impressions. IOW, they are still in the field of individuality, but they no longer get activated because they are roasted. What do you think? > According to Vaj, seeded meditation alone does not burn up old karmic impressions. In order to perform "tapas" and burn up your karma you must give up the notion of "me" and "mine" - in reality, we do not act at all - it is the accrued karma that acts - the three gunas born of nature that are doing the acting. We are just the witnesses of the karmic acts - then you begin to understand that you are only going to get as much enlightenment as you are going to get, due to your samskaras or karma. You then give up striving and just do karma yoga for the good of all.You cannot stop acting, but you can realize that the "I" is not really you true Self - you are the self - the sum total of all your acts since time began. When you realize that there is no "person" doing the acting, you are free relinquish ownership of your acts. When you give up the fruits of your actions you are then able to act in an unselfish way - you just go around doing good for others, your spouse and/or your family. > On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 8:16 AM, "Richard Williams punditster@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote: fleetwood_macncheese: > these mental and emotional patterns, their solidity begins to dissolve, > According to Vaj, seeded meditation does not remove samskaras, let alone "strong" samskaras; it merely plants "nicer seeds" to (hopefully) drown out the weeds. http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg161585.html http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg161585.html Samskaras are 'karma', or impressions left by karmic acts. Karma means action' in Sanskrit. In Buddhism, samskaras are mental and volitional formations, accumulated actions over many lives, and present actions as well; samskaras are conditioned phenomena; "structures within the unconscious that are the basis for all worldly activities and future rebirth." In the enlightenment tradition, the endless round of becoming can be abolished through Yoga, that is, an adept of Yoga can "burn up" his karma through the practice of tapas, until the sum total of sankaras is zero. When that happens, the yogin is 'liberated' from samsara. There is no return. Reference: 'A Sanskrit-English Dictionary' Monier Monier-Williams On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 6:07 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote: I was thinking more about Bhairitu's comment, and I googled 'samskara', and got back mental or emotional pattern. So, the CC Maharishi refers to, is a state of enlightenment, with samskaras mostly intact. This is why he describes it as a state of inner silence, the individual feels enlightened, but this is not reflected in his environment; CC. The silence, or light, or whatever one calls the universal motive force, cannot be reflected in the environment, the "outside world", until the samskaras get illuminated, with further enlightenment. Then simply seen for what they are, these mental and emotional patterns, their solidity begins to dissolve, moving from impenetrable objects, to playthings. After the samskaras begin to get transparent, the silence or light appears to subjectively imbue and penetrate every experience, inside and out - the "outside world" is now enlightened, to a degree - oneness predominates, UC. A "bigger" state of enlightenment; the universal motive force is felt and seen everywhere, governing everything -
