This post (may) put the recent steve klayman post in perspective. It would be interesting to hear his reaction to this new 'scam" post.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/78765 --- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I thought there was something a little stinky about > these guys. Their pics have a certain type of darshan, > but all this emphasis on celestial experiences is a > little unusual. > > --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > (This was from a private letter that was posted on a > > website, with personal > > details omitted): > > > > I have been associated with the cult of Sri Kalki > > Bhagavan (and his wife > > Padmavathi Amma), who positions himself as the > > Vishnu Avatar, and a God - > > although in recent years he has made his claims a > > little indirect, perhaps > > due to media criticism, and fear of ridicule. > > > > I have served this cult for 2 year, attended their > > Deekshas, and done a lot > > of promotion for them. I would like to bring to your > > notice that this cult > > is pressurizing its INDIAN devotees to donate large > > sums of wealth, if they > > want to remain in the good books of the disciples > > (dasas) who run the show, > > and progress further. We have even been asked to > > take loans (the last case > > was Rs 100,000 which is a large amount), and donate, > > if we don't have the > > money. We have been told that we can repay the loans > > over a few years! > > > > From the day we join we are pressurized to bring in > > new people and send them > > for the initial 3-day deeksha (costing Rs 5000). > > This is because to qualify > > for the higher level we must send 60 (now 30) people > > for the program. First > > we are told that the 3-day program will enlighten us > > (for only Rs 5000!), > > then we are told - sorry the higher process will > > enlighten you. So we have > > no option but to talk others (family, friends etc) > > into joining and going > > for the 3-day program. > > > > Once we have sent so many people, and we find no > > change in us, it is very > > difficult to step out. I have still not told my > > family that I have left, for > > loss of face. In order to convince 60 people to go, > > we have to exaggerate > > and make tall claims. We have to create a miracle > > out of each little > > incident that happened to us (such as getting a > > green light on the way to > > work) etc. We have to keep talking of unending > > grace, and say things like > > "our whole life has changed". We are all basically > > sincere people, but we > > start telling lies without realizing it, and a time > > comes when we are stuck. > > > > New people are lured in by promises of unending > > "grace", and then after we > > tell them lots of stories (most of them are just > > heard from others, no one > > has any evidence of them actually happening.), then > > the disciples ask them > > to make donations, or go for paid darshans in order > > to get that "unending > > grace". These darshans are expensive and the latest > > one is that we can touch > > Amma's feet for Rs 100,000. Prior to going for the > > higher process we were > > all told that in order for the higher process to be > > a great success we > > should make this donation. Many of us are very > > ordinary people, some have > > left our jobs to pursue a spiritual goal, so the > > amount is no small order. > > > > Even the higher process(two weeks) has made no > > difference to anyone. > > Although it does seem to us, that the program for > > foreigners (21 days, USD > > 5500) has resulted in some enlightened people (such > > as Freddie Nielsen and > > Kiara Windrider - we have heard they are > > enlightened), however in India > > there is not even an attempt at spiritual growth of > > devotees. It is only > > talk of great "celestial" miracles, and > > enlightenment is always round the > > next corner, after the next darshan (donation). > > > > Because of all the stories we perpetuate, the number > > of devotees has really > > gone up dramatically, each wondering when his turn > > for endless grace will > > come. They claim over 30 million devotees, although > > I don't know how this > > figure has been computed. > > > > Sarlo, I write this to you primarily because I am > > concerned that large > > numbers of poor and low-income people in India are > > being fleeced by this > > cult, each hoping that his string of problems will > > magically vanish after a > > darshan or deeksha. When nothing happens their > > suffering increases. > > > > We actually convince ourselves that we are happier > > than even before for a > > while after the deeksha. In that short period we are > > pushed to recruit more > > people and share our great experiences with others. > > > > The experiences we narrate are always the tales we > > were told by the > > disciples about others who got great grace. > > > > Please keep my name under wraps. It is not safe for > > me, since I have been > > working very actively promoting this cult, and they > > know that I can > > negatively affect them through the internet. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > --------------------~--> > > Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make > > Yahoo! your home page > > > http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. > http://farechase.yahoo.com > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. 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