I don't think salyavin is much willing to speculate beyond what "hard" science 
has found. 

 Certainly the safest way to proceed, but not really how big discoveries are 

 his prerogative of course.

 on the other hand, he will be a big booster once something is ascertained.

 (leading from behind)

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 There is the "consciousness" theory to astrology but there is also very 
corresponding natural patterns which roughly correlate to the returns of 
planets.  This more so with the Sun, the Moon, Saturn and Jupiter.  So I would 
think what one would do is start tracking natural patterns on other planets 
which may just for the sake of simplicity correlate with planetary returns.
 But you are arguing with people who see nature as random and believe in free 
will. I think they fear the idea that everything they do and think is a result 
of patterns set in motion at the beginning of the universe.  Nothing to fear as 
it doesn't matter.
 On 10/15/2014 12:41 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:

 Tony Nader wrote a book showing where the nine planets or grahas can be found 
in our brain.  He is saying that there is a physical manifestation of the 
"impulses of intelligence" that are present in the human conciousness.

 IMO, any intelligent being anywhere in the universe would have to have an 
equivalent "impulses of intelligence" in its own physiology and consciousness 
in order to be called sentient.

 But one argue that even rocks here on earth have consciousness--albeit a very 
low one-- by its mere existence as a clump of matter in a form of the various 
elements and their resulting atomic structures.
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<jr_esq@...> mailto:jr_esq@... wrote :
 IMO, yes.  The 12 houses and the zodiac would apply on any of those distant 
worlds.  Their solar system may or may not have the same nine planets that 
we're using here on Earth.  But the same "impulses of intelligence" would have 
to be calculated in its own solar system.
 I believe this is the reason why Patanjali wrote in his yoga sutras that 
samyama on the sun brings forth knowledge of the world.  IOW, life on these 
earthlike exoplanets can be described by the same zodiac signs that are 
pertinent here on our earth.  Doesn't that make sense?
 It depends on how astrology might work. Consciousness requires a sophisticated 
brain to operate, maybe they are affected by gravity which is the only known 
force to be infinite in extent, and therefore affects things at great distance 
unlike the other known forces which are locally contained like the ones that 
hold atoms apart.
 Trouble is, if gravity is the culprit then planets are out of the picture 
because they are too distant to affect us more than, say, a lorry going past on 
the road. And the extra distances put between us and them at various times in 
our orbit - that the ancients didn't know about - would affect any charts too 
much for them to be reliable, not that they are. So you can cross gravity off 
the list of influences, and any other field for the same reasons.
 John Hagelin claims there is a link between planets and parts of the brain 
forged by quantum superposition between atoms during the big bang. John Hagelin 
should be stripped of his PHD and publicly ridiculed for even daring to utter 
bullshit like this that he knows is complete bollocks. But he wants you to 
continue coughing up for yagyas and charts. Or maybe he's so dumb he believes 
it? Nah, it's all part of the con of using science ideas to justify their 
 If astrology is real - and there is absolutely no reason to suppose it is  - I 
would avoid travelling to other planets. Just think what being on Mars would do 
to someone with Jupiter strong in their chart! You're about 100 million miles 
closer to it! And what affect will Earth have on us? Just think if there is 
some physical force connecting us to planets surely the one we stand on would 
swamp any effect from the others, or doesn't ours count?
 So your question makes sense if astrological affects are real, different 
worlds around different stars will have different types of influences according 
to however the types of planets and their distance from brains might affect 
their owners. It would have to be a universal effect. Trouble is, I think it's 
an ancient superstition that clings on into the modern world by virtue of it's 
malleable vagueness. I don't think it's a very good explanation for anything at 
all, especially destiny and personality. Probably why NASA left it out of the 
equation when they planned the trip to the moon.
 Fun concept to ponder though...


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