Life long atheists cannot commit apostasy for there never is, nor was, anything 
for them to abandon.

Apostasy (/əˈpɒstəsi/; Greek: ἀποστασία (apostasia), "a defection or revolt") 
is the formal disaffiliation from or abandonment or renunciation of a religion 
by a person. One who commits apostasy (or who apostatizes) is known as an 

If 'spiritually, people should speak the sweet truth', what should they speak 
non-spiritually? Maybe they should just speak the truth instead of lying. 
Spiritual people divide themselves from the rest of mankind, and each other, so 
presumably they would speak with less rancour than the rest of us, except that 
is not what we observe.

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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostasy, is a terrible thing.


Spiritually, people should speak the sweet truth.

Saha Nav,

 satyam bruyat, priyam bruyat      
speak the truth, speak sweetly
na bruyat satyam apriyam |         
don't speak truth in an unloving way
priyam ca nanritam
don't speak untruth in a pleasant way
esha dharmah sanatanah
||           this
is the eternal law 

Or, TM Saha Nav: never do we speak negativity, never do we denounce anyone, 

Apostasy is just wrong thinking clearly getting over
the line.  Or as the Shakers would have said in their way, "Out of Union with 
the Gospel."

An apostate of course is
different from someone just being a critic. The critic, who as a
satisfied and regular practitioner may offer some criticism as in
a state of critique.  Such critique is then also quite different in
grade from those others being more negative and then again from
states of pernicious negativity advocacy, like those people who are
both quitters and haters in method.  That becomes a pretty clear sign
of someone who has fallen in to TM apostasy. 
We should be mindful and
clear about this as we filter our reading and interacting with our fellow 
community members
here.  That is justly good and sound subtle spirituality.   Yes, like
considering the source of posts I certainly sort my incoming mail
accordingly.  Om we should have, we could have better sorted the FFL
membership here accordingly from way back with more aggressive
moderation against the apostaic spam of outright apostasy here.
Posting on FFL should be held a privilege and not just some right.
Saha Nav,
-Buck, a Satisfied Customer by the Practise of Maharishi's Transcendental 
Meditation Programme   

Yes, that 'Disaffiliation';   Friends, for any of us we certainly know an 
apostate when we see one.
For instance, with The Science of Creative Intelligence of which TM
is the practical application.  Seeing as US jurisprudence judges SCI
to be a Religion it would not be a stretch to say that people who
would renounce TM just by dropping or quitting the practice of said
meditation and who then promote publicly against TM with an advocacy
of negativity are in fact in an apostate state: apostate, as
apostates in apostasy.  Q.E.D., TM Apostates.

---In, <authfriend@...> wrote:
>>>As I'm pretty sure both Xeno and Barry know, apostasy is not limited to 
>>>defection from a religion. One can become an apostate from any previous 
>>>> 'Apostasy is the formal disaffiliation from or abandonment or renunciation 
>>>> of a religion by a person. One who commits apostasy is known as an 
>>>> apostate.' 
>>>>>>  As I never was the member of any religion, I cannot ever be correctly 
>>>>>> accused of apostasy. As the TM org claims it is not a religion, so no 
>>>>>> one can ever be correctly accused for disafilliating or abandoning TM as 
>>>>>> apostasy (unless of course the TM org is lying about that claim). 
>>>>>It's an NPD Thang, Xeno. If you've convinced yourself that the POV held by 
>>>>>your self is "true," and that any POV that contradicts it is is "untrue," 
>>>>>then you get to make up the rules. There is absolutely *no problem* with 
>>>>>declaring someone an apostate from an organization that you declare is not 
>>>>>a religion. :-)
>>>>It's a lot like having an argument in which there is only one participant 
>>>>-- the person trying to start the argument -- and then declaring one's self 
>>>>the "winner." :-)
>>>>Narcissistic Personality Disorder really *does* explain almost all of the 
>>>>aberrant behavior we see on FFL. I would suggest that this mental disorder 
>>>>is the true legacy of Maharishi's teachings. 
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