--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In my direct > > experience with MMY and SSRS, their darshan is vast > > and powerful...infinite Shiva. > > > An honest question and sincere point: > > I am wondering what you feel from your wife's "darshan"? Or attention > on the love you have for her? > > The point I am trying to get at is distinguishing what comes from > inside us, but we attribute to others, and what really comes from > "outside". > > Which is sort of silly when we ae discussing "infinite Shiva" -- its > all inside and outside. > > But that sort of gets to the point. I find, that when focussing on a > loved one, love fills you up, and all sorts of energy dynamics can > unfold, lots of powerful stuff can happen. And one attributes it to > the other, but its really just love within oneself unfolding. > > So thats the case with "ordinary folks" (not to imply your wife is > ordinary). > > Is it (any) different with "saints"? I know that sounds like a silly > question and makes it seems I have never been in the presence of > saints and felt powerful and wonderful things. I have. But still, it > begs the question, how much is coming from them, how much is just real > inner stuff bubbleing up because we are focussed on something that > invokes love and surrender? > > MMY has wonderful lectures on "you think its all coming from the > teacher, but the teahcer does nothing, it all comes from the student. > Like a resevoir does nothing, its the pipe that makes the conection. > Like a golden chain .... " > > And "love comes from you, not from the one you love...." > > Both quote streams are related to what i am trying to get at with the > darshan experience -- but are not 100% dead-on. > > And many devotees make the (non) distinction that "here or there, in > their physiccal presence, 10,000 miles away, the guru is aways there, > full as full can be." > > Has anyone figured out this "distinction" of wholeness and its > "source" in saint darshan? How much is coming from the Saint? > Its a resonance thing. The saint is awake. When we awaken in the same way, we think it is the saint. But it isn't. Its both. Same with a loved one. Its both. Which is why as we develop, it doesn't much matter if it is a tree or a saint or a piece of gum or a dog or the morning breeze, same effect.
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