---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <punditster@...> wrote :
On 11/14/2014 8:36 PM, steve.sundur wrote:
>
Barry, your greatness is unparalleled.
>
Barry is one of the greatest cases of cognitive dissonance that I
have ever seen on discussion group:
* /He believes his Facebook friends are stalking him, yet he
sent them an invite. /
* /Everyone stalked him over here, but he sent a message
challenging us to a debate./
* /We hate him because we are so JELLOS of his temporary
subjective, enlightenment experiences./
You need to understand, Steve, that here is a guy that spent
decades reading wisdom books and chasing after the enlightenment
experience; donating tens of thousands of dollars just to witness
magic tricks performed on a stage. Yet, he still can't perform a
single magic trick, he isn't enlightened, he can't fly or levitate
himself, or even PROVE a single spiritual experience.
For all his effort, his spiritual quest was a total loss according
to Xeno. Barry got nothing, nada, /bupkis. /He got the T-shirt but
he didn't even get a spiritual name and had to make up one -
/Uncle Tantra/ - when he wrote his own wisdom book.
After he got kicked out of the cult, in an act of lonely
desperation he went on social media to try and teach others how to
act enlightened, but instead he was humiliated and got the shit
beat out him for ten years by /The Corrector./
We need to help this guy but he doesn't seem to want any help from
his friends. Go figure.
>
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<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <turquoiseb@...>
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This story from the Puranas is the very reason for my Do Not Read
List.
My stalkers are free to pick up any of my qualities that they
wish to by focusing so intently on their hatred for me, while by
ignoring them and not even reading what they write I pick up
nothing from them. Win-win. :-)
*From:* "curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife]"
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*Sent:* Friday, November 14, 2014 8:56 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill
of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about
that Good
Thanks Michael and Barry. The funniest kicker to the story is
that according to the Puranas, a demon can gain enlightenment by
a steady opposition to Krishna. So the only thing that will
happen from this circle jerk is that we gain Maharishi's "purity"
and Buck gains our "impurity."
Not a bad deal huh?!
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<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <mjackson74@...>
<mailto:mjackson74@...> wrote :
One of the bests post I have ever seen on FFL - thanks Curtis.
Very interesting to read Marshy's pontifications in context.
*From:* "curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife]"
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*Sent:* Friday, November 14, 2014 2:13 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill
of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about
that Good
C: Since Buck decided to take a swipe at me well I have been off
the board, I will take a moment to make my own case: that Buck
comically misunderstands the meaning of Maharishi's message as
usual and idiotically thinks it might serve as a weapon against
people who think differently than he does. The hysterical
perversion of the intention of Maharishi's words being used as a
justification of his doing EXACTLY what Maharishi is warning
against is too good to miss. Plus it gives me a chance to comment
on Maharishi's style of self promotions as a special guy that
seems to have worked so well on Buck. My comments will be
interspersed with Maharishi's below
Don't Speak Ill, Remain Pure, 1964
Everyone has to discharge one's duty towards himself and towards
spreading of this meditation in whatever capacity one can. And
never undermine any other's attempt or desires in whatever humble
way it may be.
C: The context is his teachers who were bitching about each
other. Maharishi wants them to get back to work pitching his
product and STFU about their personality problems with each other.
One thing of very great importance: that now when you have been
meditating for some time, purity has grown in life quite a lot.
As the mind gains more and more of the Being, mind becomes more
and more pure.
C: Again setting the context, this applies to those who are of a
level of purity where this kind of magical effect takes place. He
is not making a broad statement about all people and is not
addressing this to non meditators. By applying it to Barry and
Michael and me, Buck is saying that our consciousness is as pure
as his so this should be a problem for us too. In Maharish's
system, like that of the Laws of Manu, there are different
instructions for behavior for each level of consciousness. He is
not instructing Buck to run around like a clucking hen berating
people like me who are acting according to my own level of
consciousness according to his system. He is directing this to
insiders who want or care about his opinions. It is not a scold
to be used to beat others over the head, it is an insiders tip
for insiders.
But one thing which you have to be very cautious about is that
you don't think evil of anyone, don't speak ill of anyone.
Otherwise speaking ill and thinking ill of someone, dwelling on
the weaknesses of someone, all their bad qualities come to your
heart; [this way] you get your heart and mind spoiled.
C: Here is where it gets even funnier. For Buck worry to be
valid, the things we are saying about Maharishi must be true. He
is not denying that people have real "weaknesses", he is saying
that those real weakness come into your heart for paying
attention to them. So only in the case where Maharishi is an
actual con man shyster, or whatever other criticism had been
leveled does this influence come into play. And none of it has
anything to do with my own critiques of Maharishi's belief
system. He is not condemning all philosophical disagreement or he
would be condemning Shankara's main activity traveling around
India and debating with and arguing his points with opposing view
points. Buck is misusing the intention of this instruction
because he has intellectual boundary problems with people who
don't share his provincial view of the world.
So when through meditation, purity is growing in life, we don't
invite this mud from outside to make us impure anymore. We have
to be cautious against our thoughts that we don't think ill of
anyone, and we don't do ill to anyone naturally.
C: Again, the point is for people who in the system have gained
this imaginary purity, it is not a universal instruction for
outsiders.
Speaking ill of others is a very bad.... We say it makes the
cloth dirty, makes the whole personality very dirty and impure.
That we have to guard against in our dealings and feelings with
people. Very important; very, very important. It is as important
as daily practice of meditation.
C: So WTF is Buck doing chasing us around, drawing our "mud" to
himself? If what we are doing it is impure, then by dwelling on
and attacking us Buck is violating the very purpose of the
instruction, while at the same time thinking it is a way to put
us down? Now THAT's funny.
In the olden days in India, there was a practice that if some man
did some great sin, then the way to repent it was that he would
cover his body with a cloth like that and will go to any village.
Standing out of the village, he would shout out: my name is such
and such, and I come from that village, and I happened to be
doing like that and like that and like that. He would just
announce it and go ahead, and keep on announcing from village to
village.
And the effect was: all the people who heard him, if in their
evening meetings with their fellow men, they talk about that,
then the contention is that they partake of his sin and after
some time he becomes pure. Just by talking about the sinner, the
people who talk about him share his sin.
This is very dangerous. Someone has done something wrong and if
we dwell on that and talk it over with someone, we have been
affected by that sin and we spread that sin; we partake of his
sin and take it upon us.
C: I agree with Maharishi that olden day India was full of
idiotic practices.
Anyone who has done any mistake there or there or there, we just
don't speak of it. Otherwise we
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