From: Duveyoung <>
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 6:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs

Please re-read and note that I used the word "if."  Having done so, I did not 
need to shore up any cred for Gordon --- saved by the "if," ya see?

Meanwhile, your claim 

"would not change my life in any way"  
seems to be so obviously in-human that I would ask you to reconsider the 
Not gonna happen. I stand on what I said before.

Now, I shouldn't be surprised that you said this, because you say you saw 
levitation, and frankly, I would equate "levitating" to "alien landing" in how 
strongly human-mindset-impacting either would be if the world was given all the 
proofs necessary to KNOW instead of believe.  And there you are saying you saw 
it and, so I guess, you're saying that that experience didn't do "all that much 
of anything" to you, so probably aliens wouldn't change your world either.
What you're missing is having lived with seeing this for 14 years and watching 
as other people saw it, admitted having seen it and even raved about seeing it, 
but then a few days later claimed that they'd never seen it. Human beings have 
an investment in the status quo that can override ANYTHING.   
Have I got your reasoning here?  Something like that?

Did you actually KNOW that levitation was taking place, or did you say, 
"There's a 1% chance this is some sort of staged illusion."  Even the slightest 
doubt would be -- to me -- why levitation didn't shake your world at the time.  
If there were zero doubts and yet still your world was not rocked, then, okay, 
I got no explanation for why your nervous system didn't "act normally."  

There was no doubt, and no need for it. It happened and in circumstances (like 
in a booth in Dennys) where no "setup" was possible. What "it" was that 
happened may still elude me, but it happened. 
What you don't get is that my nervous system treated this as normal BECAUSE IT 
WAS NORMAL. I saw this shit at least a couple a times a month for 14 years. 
After the first rush, it's pretty ho-hum stuff. 

But here's what I think REAL HUMANS would do if aliens landed:

1.  Obsess.  Think how easily great hunks of various populations can be shifted 
into a mindset.  1/3 of America was roused by the word "ebola" enough to have, 
say, dozens of thoughts per day about what it meant to their lives.  And the 
other 2/3rds who were immune to the mental stampede yet still had to have had 
thoughts about ebola's characteristics just in order to be on top of the issue.
None of the people I'd be interested in knowing or interfacing with would 
obsess. That would free me to deal with people with stronger minds.  :-) 

See?  If aliens land on the White House lawn, are you kidding me, Barry?  The 
sheer amount of media tonnage would make you, force you, absolutely cram you 
with everyone's opinions about the event.  There is zero way your nervous 
system could avoid the prongs, the triggerings and conclusions of everyone 
else, and perforce, you'd be a victim of a flood of thoughts about the aliens.  

Uh, Edg. You know that little button that is usually in the upper right or left 
of your computer or TV, the one that says, "OFF." It's possible to push it.  :-)
And "flood of thoughts" means IT CHANGES YOU.  

No, it changes YOU. *I* don't react to everyone around me thinking about a 
certain subject by having streams of obsessive thoughts about the same subject. 
YOU DO. From my point of view, only people with weak minds and no self control 
and no ability to practice mindfulness do that. 

No way you could avoid, say, having a thought about aliens EVERY FIVE MINUTES.  
It would be the first issue of everyone upon awakening in the morning.  

You clearly have never practiced mindfulness.

2.  Question.  There'd be no human agenda that was not obviously impacted.   
From wars all the way down to do-I-ask-her-to-marry-me would be revised in 
light of a landing.  

One word: WHY? 
What does what these little bug-eyed monsters think about anything MATTER? Why 
should their presence or non-presence inspire/threaten humans to do anything 
different than they ever have, unless the aliens actually did threaten them, 
and had the ability to follow through. 

I doubt seriously if there would be even one fewer war. 
If aliens land, I don't ask if I should marry, I ask if there will be a world 
tomorrow in which one might then marry.  If aliens lands, I don't just keep 
bombing another county without asking, "Hmm, do the aliens have tech that could 
stomp us and what would they think about our warfare?"  
We must agree to disagree. 

And so forth for all agendas.  Some agendas especially, but all agendas at 
least to some degree.

3.  Doubt.  Virtually every value would be re-examined in light of the landing. 
 Am I my brother's keeper?  Does God exist?  What's the meaning of life? -- all 
these issues are now followed by "What do the aliens have to say about this?"
I don't have any of these doubts now, and the presence of some little green man 
is not going to start them. You really do need someday to stop projecting how 
YOU would react onto the larger world. 

4.  Turmoil.  It would be hard to underestimate the amount of carnage that 
would happen almost instantly given the present cultures on Earth.  Every 
leader's status would now be needing an "aliens" statement, and  with 1/3 of 
every population having a religious addiction, there's going to be throngs 
outside of every leader's office clamoring for decisions that favor their 
interpretations of the aliens, and if there's dissonance, there will be blood.  
"If you say aliens don't worship Allah, I keel you."   "If aliens are okay with 
homos, kill the aliens." "Should I go to work today at the 
nuke-bomb-making-plant?"   Etc.
Again, since you don't seem to have discovered it, there is this thing called 
the OFF button. None of this shit has to affect you unless you WANT it to 
affect you. 

5.  Crazy shit.  There would be no end to the crazy shit.  Look at Nabs going 
nutzoid for crop circles -- there's 1/3 of every population with similar minds 
-- hair triggered and half-cocked -- ready to do every single thing imaginable 
to the aliens.  From "I want to have sex with you" to whole segments arming 
themselves to mass demonstrations to over-night-cults.  The crazies along would 
exhaust global clarity with emotional obfuscations.  

And? There is crazy shit now. There would not really be much more if little 
green men were walking around. 

Enough?  Do I have to do more numbers to show that you have not considered an 
alien landing hardly at all?


And you're full of shit. 

YOU would be changed. You're trying to insinuate that everyone -- and in 
particular, me -- is as weak-minded, obsessive, and drama queeny as yourself.  

We aren't. 


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