On 11/22/2014 12:28 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

Yes, I agree that a larger safety net is necessary, and the bucks for that should come from the ultra wealthy who shirk their national responsibility, by evading taxes. Otherwise, we will continue to see the middle class disappear, and be headed for a second revolution, eventually.

Food prices are climbing very high. The pound of butter I paid $2.99 for at Trader Joes the last time cost me $3.99 the other day. That's a 33% increase. I don't eat beef but the price of hamburger is over $4 now. The riots in Greece were because people could no longer afford food not because they were economic experts. Only a matter of time until riots begin here and the government is trying to be proactive but just the wrong way.

Part of the issue, is that corporate titans are seen as great visionaries and geniuses, instead of simply being true to their charter, which is to turn as big a profit, as possible, resources and populations be damned. We need real leaders, not Warren Buffet and a bunch of unethical salesmen, running this country.

But being in tech also you know the corporate titans are not the visionaries. They buy small companies started by people who are visionary or accidentally (more often than not) created something visionary.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

One of the ways of doing it would be guaranteed annual income. That's a safety net and keeps people from becoming desperate. In fact the crime reduction it might produce might pay for it. You can look up the different countries implementing it and see how they are going to pay for it. Otherwise limit how much money anyone can have because we're seeing that billionaires are mentally ill and don't deserve the power they wield.

Americans are so brainwashed with a Tarzan like "capitalism good, socialism bad" meme that its difficult to get any decent change and it'll just send us back to the middle ages where there are two classes the extremely wealthy and the extremely poor. Don't stand for it!

Nothing brings this out more than than the holiday season or "Crassmust".

On 11/22/2014 10:20 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... <mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@...> [FairfieldLife] wrote:

    Yes, but I don't know how that would be possible. This area I now
    live in, was a paradise for the natives, for 3,000 years - no
    inter-tribal warfare, and absolute respect for territorial
    boundaries. But, they had nothing, and lived entirely off the
    land. I like my tech, and modern life, and not sure how that
    would happen, without monetary rewards.

    ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
    <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <noozguru@...>
    <mailto:noozguru@...> wrote :

    People sure are desperate for making money so they come up with
    their weirdest ideas.  If there is a future it's going to be
    VERY, VERY weird.  Just think what a nicer world this would be if
    people didn't have to worry about making money.

    On 11/22/2014 08:11 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@...
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