On 11/29/2014 10:14 AM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

It was Judy who brought that phrase about being open minded, attributed to her dad, after I accused her of being close minded on a topic.

C: I didn't get if from Judy or her dad. We all got it from someplace else, it is a common saying. The skeptics use it a lot which is most likely my source. James Randi used it a lot.

Judy said her dad used to say it and yeah probably a lot of people used it. But I run into people who just mentally close up before you can get your full argument out.

N: What is happening to FFL is we are getting old and cranky. Some of us are approaching our 70s and some are already there. And we have some that are a generation younger (apparently Salyavin and MJ).

It is kinda unusual to watch a group fly this out of control. Usually moderators will keep things civil but then there's nothing like a "free for all" either. Some of us like to keep our anonymity because we don't want (having been TM teachers) unwarranted reprisals from the TMO. Even Judy recommended it.

But anyway the places also has to keep up it's appearances as a "loony bin" which doesn't seem to hard to do. :-D

C: I think it has worked pretty well as an unmoderated discussion group with a few exceptions. I can only think of a few times when it seemed to go over what I consider a reasonable line. I don't mind if someone calls me names here about being stupid or unevolved because of my perspective. I consider all of that a version of "poopy pants" and believe it weakens their argument against my points. It says " this is all I got." So if a moderator jumped in on that kind of personal attack it would take away what i consider to be evidence of my points not being refuted by reason. That works for me.

I was always opposed to posting limits and only wrote the counter software since people were having a hard time keeping track of posts. Most moderators would have given time outs to people "graffitizing" the group. People will do that still on some of the newsgroups but the Thunderbird newsreader probably the option to just "ignore thread" and you never see the rest of their posts again (they're usually the only ones replying to it anyway).

On 11/29/2014 09:33 AM, curtisdeltablues@... <mailto:curtisdeltablues@...> [FairfieldLife] wrote:

    I am just trying to keep from being so "open minded" that my
    brains fall out!

    Glad it made you laugh.

    ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
    <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <sharelong60@...>
    <mailto:sharelong60@...> wrote :

    Curtis, I'm still LOLing as I reply. What got me laughing was
    your comment about what is overrated at this stage of life. Being
    vague so others can enjoy it for themselves...
    Have fun tomorrow and I look forward to your report.

    *From:* "curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife]"
    *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
    *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 10:47 AM
    *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...

    I've watched this will some alarm because last time I was posting
    here I had to try to back down Jim and Nabby from creating
    fantasy ill-will scenarios about my personal life in response to
    me posting my opinions about Maharishi's teaching. It was an
    escalation of their MO since I began posting here. I am happy to
    see it resolved with Jim creating his own page while hilariously
    claiming that it was because OTHER people were not being civil
    here! I do not believe it will last any more than his
    participation on then other "enlightened" forum, but hope to be
    proven wrong.

    I think you were right to go the legal route because they were
    crossing a weird and disturbing line Barry. There is no parity
    between how you post here and what those guys were up to.

    FFL has gone through many different incarnations as strongly
    influential posters come and go. I viewed the end of the Judy era
    as a positive thing, but was disturbed to see how others
    escalated to fill the gap. Judy ran her routine in a much more
    interesting way IMO, so despite strongly dissagreing with her
    most of the time, I was entertained and prompted to write more
    many times because of her participation. That degraded in the era
    of the clique she led that involved the Share bashing era in the
    girl's locker room. Shit got weird and unpleasant, but worst of
    all boring.

    I don't know where FFL is headed now but I am an optimist. I
    intend to report on my experiences tomorrow at the "event" in
    Alexandria. Last I checked almost 800 people had reserved a seat.
    I had some contact with people from the old days who were kind
    enough to share their perspective. Although I remain a skeptic
    and am not really going with anything close to an "open" mind
    (overrated at this stage of my life I believe) I will go for the
    many layers of entertainment. One of the greatest aspects of the
    entertainment will be posting here about it. FFL has been a great
    resource for my thinking and writing. It has been so useful that
    I have put up with some people with unfriendly agendas against me
    here. It was the ticket for admission.

    Sorry to see things spiral out so far here but I am encouraged to
    see the changes.

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