--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 21, 2005, at 3:15 PM, sparaig wrote: > [...] > >> > >> http://www.noetic.org/research/medbiblio/ch1.htm > >> > >> > > > > ITs really hard to generalize from an article from 1955. Scientific > > apparatus and techniques have matured greatly since then. Also, how > > do you know it was the specific technique you've been referring to? > > Even if given the same name, do you know if the teachers were from > > the same tradition? Telephone effect and all that... > > It's just an example from 1955 describing samadhi and using virtually > identical adjectives. Take it for what you will--the yogic tradition > has been familiar with these adjectives from experience for much > longer than 1955. It's just part of the way it is taught, when it's > taught fully. I liked Rick's example he gave of the guru M. took his > students to who exhibited the same state. M. admitted his students > could not do this. Still can't or I'm sure we'd see it being used to > market falling sales :-). > > Recent research has been even more provocative IMO. It's all > interesting. >
You snipt the part in that study concerning accelerated heart rate and certainly NO mention was made of breath suspension. In that entire book, the only episodes of breath suspension mentioned inany study are for TM. This doesn't prove anything save that you were willing to snip out of context to try and prove your point, not that I am surprised, mind you... ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
