--- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>
> > > > The folks who try to convince us we're already
> > > > enlightened are fond of suggesting that we have
> > > > some elaborate, exalted, flashy intellectual
> > > > notions of what enlightenment is like.
> > > >
> > > > I'm simply saying that isn't the case with me.
> > > > I have no idea what enlightenment is like; I
> > > > only know it isn't what *ignorance* is like.
> > > >
> > > So you define enlightenment by exclusion...
> >
> > My single criterion is one of exclusion, yes. I
> > don't claim it amounts to anything like a
> > complete definition.
>
> Beautifully put. This single criterion by definition excludes the a
> priori perfection ("enlightenment") in this present state
> ("ignorance"). By deciding
Rory, I'll bet you a buck you can't express what
you want to say here without resorting to the use
of terms implying intentionality, conscious choice
("deciding," "making," "denying," "believing").
In any case, with posts on this topic, from now on
I will read no further than the first word implying
some sort of intentionality. If you have any desire
to communicate with me about this, you'll have to
figure out how to do it without using any such
terms, because I find them disrespectful, insulting,
and hostile.
that "it" is other-than-this, one
> makes "it" so.
>
> The joke is, we then forget that we a priori decided that this
isn't
> it; we forget that we have withheld our unconditional love and
> blessings from the appreciation of this moment, and so we think
that
> we are bound into something more profound than our own not-this
> decision, somehow at the mercy of our perceptions, something
> external to us, more powerful than we are.
>
> By denying the innate criterionless perfection of this moment, we
> deny recognizing the subtle unity of this perfect moment "in here"
> and ourSelf "out there," and believe ourself to be immersed in pure
> duality, a tiny being trapped within the otherness of not-now -- of
> desire, memory and spacetime!
>
> I am not saying that merely reading these lines will necessarily be
> sufficient for realizing the true nature and equivalence of Self
> and "this" -- the realization of Unity or Brahman is (or can be)
> immensely profound and powerful but also is supremely subtle, and
> though omnipresent and eternal it is very easily overlooked by more
> concrete aspects of our mind (attachments, ideations, etc.), until
> they cease to entrance us and fall away.
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