--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Rory, I'll bet you a buck you can't express what
> > > you want to say here without resorting to the use
> > > of terms implying intentionality, conscious choice
> > > ("deciding," "making," "denying," "believing").
> > 
> > Quite right; enlightenment consists (in part) in taking 
> > responsibility
> 
> And then one can claim authorship of one's
> enlightenment.  *I* did it!
> 
> <snip>
> > I do wonder why you associate the idea of intentionality and 
> > responsibility with disrespect and hostility
> 
> No, I was mistaken.  I just now had a rush of brains
> to the head and realized it's not hostility, it's a
> need to defend one's sense that one should be able to
> take personal credit for one's enlightenment.
>

Hi Judy- it was an interesting thing, and very much in line with 
what you are saying here, that when I was looking for that quote 
earlier about the Self unfolding by itself, I googled it, and guess 
what? It was you that came up in the results as the first one to 
have posted the quote, that I was then able to use!

Having said that, this is the eternal conundrum associated with 
enlightenment; uncovering the Self. Everyone, and rightly so, 
perceives the process to it differently. Rory speaks in terms of 
intentionality, taking credit if you will, and he is right. You, on 
the other hand persist in saying it happens by itself. Also right!

The key as I see it, is to begin to identify with that which would 
make itself known, our Selves. Which I haven't seen you contradict 
or disagree with yet...





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