Buck, I can understand, if you are emotionally sensitive that you might feel hurt as a result of some the of things posted here on FFL, but 'ruinous' is another matter. That means disastrous or destructive. Obviously if a person thinks idea A is false and persuasively explains why he/she thinks it is false, it could be ruinous. Now if you like idea A and want to defend it, you must do so in a manner more persuasive than the person who thinks it is false. Spiritual arguments eventually all amount to blather because they are not based on facts. Facts that are related to spiritual things never seem to touch the core value of spirituality because that core value is always said to not exist in the material world, and hence, there are no indisputable facts that can be presented; everything is hearsay, and not admissible in court. There are many things you have brought up here which I think are dead wrong. For example, the Maharishi effect. I think a case could be made that there is some sort of interaction between human beings that result in crowd effects, like riots. There is electrical activity in the brain and it seems as if it could influence people near you were it strong enough, but the effect would be much more limited than the way the movement talks about it, it would at best be an electromagnetic field effect. But also, it might be a chemical effect, or people picking up on behavioural cues. So the scientific issue would revolve around these known effects, not a unified field effect, for scientifically a unified field is still an unfinished and unproven theory, and hence has not been discovered scientifically, it is an ideal many scientists are attempting to work toward. The movement's spiel about the Maharishi effect is essentially a scam because mentally the idea has been approached philosophically rather than scientifically. Do you want to discuss this? From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count I have no problem withconsidering divergent opinion. I am quite happy reading it here, asRick had originally intended. But I do brace at the ruinous hurtfulway you and others presenting here have on the discussions here.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <anartaxius@...> wrote : I think, Buck, what you call collaboration is a situation where everyone agrees with you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : Collaboration? Could many folksdare at all to publicly disagree here on FFL anymore given the lackof self-restraint in the culture that remains on FFL? What is mostlymissing now from the dominant FFL writing is a kindness to process, alove enough of collaboration that seems necessary enough for there tobe creative thinking between people. 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