---In [email protected], <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :
If anyone else here would care to extend their feelings of apologies for their poor behavior, unkindness, abusive invective, or over the top name-calling here towards others in the FFL yahoo-groups community I would be glad to take them over to The_Peak to our former collaborators in thinking here. Peace be with us all, JaiGuruYou "Collaborators in thinking"? That doesn't sound right. And Jim was a yobbo at the best of times, why doesn't he come back and apologise if group hugs are suddenly so important to everyone? Like I give a shit...You'd be better off staying there and taking Willytex and Judy with you except they like arguing and stirring the shit so maybe you'd better start personally directing your pleas towards them. What do you want from this place anyway? Your dream of soggy minded true believerism sounds like most human being's nightmare, you've been banging this stupid drum for years and no one gives a damn, when do you give it up and just get on with your life? Barking mad the lot of you... MJ writing: “Granted many of us here including me sometimes went over the top with name calling and if I offended anyone I apologize,” ---In [email protected], <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : Dear MJ, Ann sends her regards to you from The_Peak. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/the_peak/conversations/messages/3812 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/the_peak/conversations/messages/3812 ---In [email protected], <mjackson74@...> wrote : I have said so once or twice before when the Peak crowd was still active on FFL but if you wanna, go ahead. From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count MJ, this takes a lot of courage to do given the climate on FFL and I admire that. Contrition maybe, but what of repentance? And the others here now? Your acknowledgment though is a good start towards something better here on FFL. Would you like that I convey your apology here over to our former communal members at The_Peak? I admire your out-front start on this, MJ. Best Regards, MJ writing: “Granted many of us here including me sometimes went over the top with name calling and if I offended anyone I apologize,” ---In [email protected], <mjackson74@...> wrote : I disagree - if for example you are referring to people including me asking Jimmy for proof he was enlightened other than his assertion in the face of the cussing rants he would go on when challenged or in the face of someone saying Marshy was a fraud. In light of his behavior I think such challenges were warranted. Same with common sense challenges to Nabby's assertions that Benjy Creme was some sort of a high spiritual guru. I mean come on. Granted many of us here including me sometimes went over the top with name calling and if I offended anyone I apologize, except for the vile things I said about Marshy which while harsh were all true. From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count A push back, a kind counter-offensive evidently was in order for all the damage being rendered in the reduced scope of communal discussion on our FFL community by a character of intolerant writers cutting good people down at their knees by employing a methodical crossfire of unkind personal invective as weapon against both the TM-TB's and the experiential-based transcendentalist members then present on the list. ---In [email protected], <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : This larger thread is a larger search for better diversity of thought here on Rick's FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups. Anartaxius, whoever you are, in your spock-like unfeeling way for this point you go ahead and condone the unkind culture of the snark here because you practice it. Lot like that article Geezer posted recently about how people can be led into their [cult] beliefs given over to a control by their beliefs if they first are led to act on them.. Seems you've been led far down a low path here with some others, possibly so far out of the light to see your way back up very clearly. An evident consequence of this is that the whole communal discussion here suffers for your plight. As they say, change happens within, hopefully you and others can make some way in your vile meanness for kindness and we may all be better off here. That might take some courage on your part to change. -JaiGuruYou ---In [email protected], <richard@...> wrote : It looks like somebody posted a false analogy. According to what I've read, a false analogy is a rhetorical fallacy that uses an analogy (comparing objects or ideas with similar characteristics) to support an argument, but the conclusion made by it is not supported by the analogy due to the differences between the two objects. ---In [email protected], <anartaxius@...> wrote : I think, Buck, what you call collaboration is a situation where everyone agrees with you. ---In [email protected], <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : I have no problem with considering divergent opinion. I am quite happy reading it here, as Rick had originally intended. But I do brace at the ruinous hurtful way you and others presenting here have on the discussions here. Buck, you need to realize that we are dealing with people who think they can win a religious debate by spreading a rumor that you are a drunkard. Although you may have given up that kind of childish bullying in grade school, some have not risen to that level of discourse or social skills. ---In [email protected], <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : Collaboration? Could many folks dare at all to publicly disagree here on FFL anymore given the lack of self-restraint in the culture that remains on FFL? What is mostly missing now from the dominant FFL writing is a kindness to process, a love enough of collaboration that seems necessary enough for there to be creative thinking between people. Instead what we have is a culture of rudeness that has long interrupted the communal thinking here and driven people away. ---In [email protected], <mjackson74@...> wrote : I have said so once or twice before when the Peak crowd was still active on FFL but if you wanna, go ahead. From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count MJ, this takes a lot of courage to do given the climate on FFL and I admire that. Contrition maybe, but what of repentance? And the others here now? Your acknowledgment though is a good start towards something better here on FFL. Would you like that I convey your apology here over to our former communal members at The_Peak? I admire your out-front start on this, MJ. Best Regards, MJ writing: “Granted many of us here including me sometimes went over the top with name calling and if I offended anyone I apologize,” ---In [email protected], <mjackson74@...> wrote : I disagree - if for example you are referring to people including me asking Jimmy for proof he was enlightened other than his assertion in the face of the cussing rants he would go on when challenged or in the face of someone saying Marshy was a fraud. In light of his behavior I think such challenges were warranted. Same with common sense challenges to Nabby's assertions that Benjy Creme was some sort of a high spiritual guru. I mean come on. Granted many of us here including me sometimes went over the top with name calling and if I offended anyone I apologize, except for the vile things I said about Marshy which while harsh were all true. From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count A push back, a kind counter-offensive evidently was in order for all the damage being rendered in the reduced scope of communal discussion on our FFL community by a character of intolerant writers cutting good people down at their knees by employing a methodical crossfire of unkind personal invective as weapon against both the TM-TB's and the experiential-based transcendentalist members then present on the list. ---In [email protected], <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : This larger thread is a larger search for better diversity of thought here on Rick's FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups. Anartaxius, whoever you are, in your spock-like unfeeling way for this point you go ahead and condone the unkind culture of the snark here because you practice it. Lot like that article Geezer posted recently about how people can be led into their [cult] beliefs given over to a control by their beliefs if they first are led to act on them.. Seems you've been led far down a low path here with some others, possibly so far out of the light to see your way back up very clearly. An evident consequence of this is that the whole communal discussion here suffers for your plight. As they say, change happens within, hopefully you and others can make some way in your vile meanness for kindness and we may all be better off here. That might take some courage on your part to change. -JaiGuruYou ---In [email protected], <richard@...> wrote : It looks like somebody posted a false analogy. According to what I've read, a false analogy is a rhetorical fallacy that uses an analogy (comparing objects or ideas with similar characteristics) to support an argument, but the conclusion made by it is not supported by the analogy due to the differences between the two objects. ---In [email protected], <anartaxius@...> wrote : I think, Buck, what you call collaboration is a situation where everyone agrees with you. ---In [email protected], <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : I have no problem with considering divergent opinion. I am quite happy reading it here, as Rick had originally intended. But I do brace at the ruinous hurtful way you and others presenting here have on the discussions here. Buck, you need to realize that we are dealing with people who think they can win a religious debate by spreading a rumor that you are a drunkard. Although you may have given up that kind of childish bullying in grade school, some have not risen to that level of discourse or social skills. ---In [email protected], <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : Collaboration? Could many folks dare at all to publicly disagree here on FFL anymore given the lack of self-restraint in the culture that remains on FFL? What is mostly missing now from the dominant FFL writing is a kindness to process, a love enough of collaboration that seems necessary enough for there to be creative thinking between people. Instead what we have is a culture of rudeness that has long interrupted the communal thinking here and driven people away.
