Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

The challenge of FFL as a forum community is to find constructive ways of 
engaging with people. That takes kindness, tolerance and patience as skillsets 
and practice to be able to think together and be creative, to look at and solve 
problems together. FFL is a long ways from that by a grip of vice of some folks 
who dominate FFL.Collaborating in 'Disconfirmation': seeking different ways of 
looking at models, of 'thinking' in constructive conflict.Thoughtful 
conversation seems a willing kind collaborative, a kind cooperative 'process in 
disconfirmation'. By contrast a trust in kindness as element has been driven 
out of Fairfieldlife at Yahoo-groups by a dominant methodical use of personal 
invective in the ad hominem used as weapon to personally hurt people 
here.Collaboration in a type of, Love? In kindness to a creative process?Quite 
evidently thoughtful conversation takes a civil kind collaboration in 
self-control to have productive conversation. Some have done their poisonous 
work here with the communal well-spring.Collaboration? Could many folks dare at 
all to publicly disagree here on FFL anymore given the lack of self-restraint 
in the culture that remains on FFL? What is mostly missing now from the 
dominant FFL writing is a kindness to process, a love enough of collaboration 
that seems necessary enough for there to be creative thinking between people. 
Instead what we have is a culture of rudeness that has long interrupted the 
communal thinking here and driven people away.The cultural place that was FFL 
seems to have been poisoned. The place evidently has died for lack of a willing 
collaboration as an oxygen that could include other points of view other than 
some caustic character of dominant internet haters and personalities in method. 
The cost to FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups has been the loss of a forum for 
communal thinking.A pervasive unkindness in ad hominem-istic snark parading as 
'intellectual retort', it's the dominant 'culture' here at FFL now, as the 
evident lack in thoughtful community culture here. Folks otherwise have come 
instead to fear to spend their time thinking here reading let alone posting 
here.  It is a sad commentary on how it has gone down for FFL. Many of the 
writers left here have in many ways become the people they revile, bullies like 
they see Bevan or others in the movement community.Salon, saloon or shalom; who 
would enter in to a place met with the likes of, “You Suck..” or “Fuck you” as 
first text lines or “You lying Fuck” as a subject heading? MJ, there was a long 
period of a poisonous malignancy here in the postings between a few people who 
came on before you came along and added to it in your way. FFL is just not a 
safe place for well-meaning people to loiter or join in hence most folks 
wandered out. Meditators and people around Fairfield here always go 'whew-phew' 
and roll their eyes about the reputation of FFL as a place for thoughtful 
dialogue whence FFL gets mentioned. FFL got wrecked a while ago as a community 
place that way. mjackson74 wrote, well Buck how do you account for the 
departure of all the people who used to post on FFL in the years before I 
joined? Looking back at the archives, there were a whole bunch of folk who had 
already dropped out before I came along, so the fact that Judy, Anne, Jimmy the 
Enlightened and Nappy Nabby jumped ship does not seem to be that much of a 
recent trend.Yep, even Rick chooses to post substantial material elsewhere now 
instead of posting to FFL as to just shark-feeding for what is left remaining 
of FFL. A long list of people is now gone before us who had once helped further 
the culture of the list, mostly been driven off by an aggressive and appalling 
unkindness of culture in the ongoing personal shark-like attack by the ad 
hominem that evidently has become endemic here; that seeming 'professionals' 
default to use in their writing method instead of simply dealing with material 
posed. And those same complain about originality, thinking and lack of 
creativity..Nothing to see here folks. Just another person trying to blame the 
fact that he and the people he likes can't think of anything intelligent to say 
on the people they don't like.  :-)Good timing, Turqb,Left or driven off?  This 
as your thinking is fine as intelligent retort on one level Anartaxius except, 
the low post and dwindled active member counts may show something else.Looking 
in on the culture of what is FFL now, is it a surprise the numbers have dropped 
off when there is so much about Fairfield or larger spiritual matter being 
talked about otherwise by others actively involved in it? No, it is like the 
well was poisoned here by some.Ironically there is an evident invective that is 
intolerance to conversation here and to divergent idea by a concentration of 
some few who remain active posting here.If could be we are just getting on with 
our lives. Now that most of the TB crazies have left, some of the tart, sharp 
conversation has dwindled, and there are less opportunities for intelligent 
retorts. I think you would have welcomed the change. 'Intelligent retort'?We've 
not been very good at discussion here for some time on FFL and the place as a 
forum is nearly dead.Yep, visiting looking back in on Fairfieldlife at 
yahoo-groups evidently this is mostly a sad inhospitable place rendered down to 
some pulp substance of travelogue, movie reviews and the personal bickerings of 
a few.  Om, for what once was Fairfieldlife,Sooooooooooo, turns out that there 
WERE ZERO posts since last night.Just another tell that FFL is going down for 
the count.