Thanks for try to help the poor guy, Buck. Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to. It's not complicated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :
Turqb is proly not all bad as a person. One can kind of understand some of these old TM'ers here in frequenting FFL the way they do yet looking for community as they once had. Being an immigrant, isolated in a foreign country, is probably difficult and at times very depressing, where people don't even speak your language and never even heard of TM and the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. In a desperate plea for attention, they sometimes even turn antagonistic to their own group. We don't know exactly why they turn, but it probably has a lot to do with local peer pressure in order to fit in. That communal something, that brotherhood that they had during their formative heady days of youth whence TM was coming in to its own back in the 60's and 70's. Those were powerful times in camaraderie, something that some people may not ascend to have in their lives like that at all. Being an ex-military brat, it's hard to keep in touch with old friends. Obviously anyone that would leave the U.S. to live in Europe by choice, already has some major mental and social problems, right? There are few environments or careers that produce or give that level of feeling of purpose and communal connectedness. When a guy gets into a situation as an expat, they sometimes try to hang on to the old memories of the glory days back in the States. They sometimes miss their family and old friends so they seek to keep in touch by any means possible: watching Yank movies, going on the internet to reach out to old friends, if they ever had any. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : A lot of old TM'ers like several here on FFL as they formatively 'came of age' it was back in the heady days of TM in the 60's and 70's. At a time that may have been one of those more powerful times of community for some in their whole lives. Some people in their early lives may never really have a cultivated experience of community, of navigating a healthy bonded group experience, like army brats that get moved frequently around in their youth may miss out on this in those formative years. TM for some may well have been that most powerful experience of group community, of brotherhood in anything. Seeing this or making note of it I feel makes sympathetic characters of several people you see in TM or here on FFL. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <reverse_archery@...> wrote : "Ha! What nonsense from him. I remember about ten years ago, interacting with Barry, and he was a different person. But, when I recognized around that time, that my experience and my life were meeting the criteria for spiritual liberation, or enlightenment, and decided to come out of the closet about it on FFL, he kinda flipped out, and hasn’t been the same since. In evaluating what he has to say, regarding these endless rants against TM, it suddenly occurred to me that if I were to compare Barry’s REAL life, against mine and those in my social circle, he has accomplished very little. He strikes me as someone who has lived so much of his life in a spiritual cocoon, and wearing his ‘anti-cult’ glasses, now spreads the warning *of his own experience* tirelessly, not realizing that most of us, certainly everyone I know, has managed to simply elude the snares he rails against incessantly. His life’s reality, focused unerringly on turning others away from the spiritual dependency he lived for decades, is so tiny, so restricted, so unsuccessful, compared to the life I live, it becomes something very much about Barry, but with little relevance to me. He has made up his mind long ago about those who have faithfully practiced TM, and the notion that someone has accomplished the goal, in spite of his judgments and assumptions, drives him mad. It is just not at all my problem, and something he will have to resolve on his own. Or not. :-)"