There are a number of people here in SC that are convinced the end of humanity
is nigh because of the gay marriage ruling and the removal of the flag
movements.
From: "Bhairitu [email protected] [FairfieldLife]"
<[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can AI Machines Know Ethics?
Yup, it's just a theory for now. But there's a lot we don't know about
our universe and how things work. People who might discount the notion might
be the same kind of soul at one time who wouldn't believe that the world was
round.
There are a probably a lot of surprises coming that is if the human race
survives.
On 06/28/2015 03:25 PM, [email protected] [FairfieldLife] wrote:
As usual, you are pretty funny Michael.
Of course there have been numerous references to the Akashic Records before
Madame Blavatsky, they just didn't call them, the Akashic Records.
Does that mean they are real?
I don't hear anyone claiming they are, do you?
But, with your permission, perhaps we can discuss the possibility.
---In [email protected], <mjackson74@...> wrote :
Might you be willing to entertain the idea that the akashic records are just
some esoteric bullshit that well meaning new age bullshiters made up, even if
they really believed in their existence? I definitely include C Lutes in the
ranks of esoteric new age bullshiters -for all his connections with Marshy and
his declaration of being enlightened, he was as much of a fringe guy as anyone
who ever gave a lecture
Doesn't seem to be any record of akashic records before Blavatsky and her
theosophical kooks - they made it up. Good for psychics and other readers who
purport to read them for folks, always for a fee of course.
From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]"
<[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can AI Machines Know Ethics?
Charlie Lutes liked to talk a lot of about it but I've read a number of
others on the subject. I didn't find them varying much in the description.
Scientifically, if we radiate electrical impulses those might get caught in
some kind of "ether" or "celestial realms". This is something that has not
been researched much.
This would mean that human beings are a "terminal" to a cosmic computer. :-D
On 06/28/2015 02:17 PM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
whichakashic record you talkin' about? there are quite a few depending on
which new age whacko you consult for your records
From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]"
<[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can AI Machines Know Ethics?
Theintellect is binary so not that hard to model. It is yes or no. A
US Berkeley student did a graduate paper which I read back in the 1990s. I
had suggested this to our development team before the paper was published and
one of the project leads came across it. I recall the student got some
interesting and unexpected results with his model.
Neural networks are a way of learning. They've been around for awhile. My
books probably date back to the 1980s. But what if our brains are really
nothing more than receiver/transmitters that communicate with the "akashic
record"? Yeah, a bit "woo-woo" maybe but could indeed be a possibility.
Might explain some things.
On 06/28/2015 12:01 PM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Everythingis debatable. In an ironic sort of way, artificial intelligence
does apply to humans. I often think of you as having artificial intelligence.
Attempting to replicate human intelligence has so far failed because the human
neural network of connexions is so complex. Many researchers are investigating
insect intelligence, which is a simpler model to try to understand. That Google
paper was interesting. Here is one of the conversations from that original
paper:
Human: what is the purpose of life? Machine: to serve the greater good.
Human: what is the purpose of living? Machine: to live forever. Human: what is
the purpose of existence? Machine: to find out what happens when we get to the
planet earth. Human: where are y! ou now? Machine: i'm in the middle of
nowhere. Human: what is the purpose of dying? Machine: to have a life. Human:
what is the purpose of being intelligent? Machine: to find out what it is.
Human: what is the purpose of emotions? Machine: i don't know.
I attached the original paper, A Neural Conversational Model, to this post.
---In [email protected], <jr_esq@...> wrote :
Xeno,
I had to take a double-take to understand what you're saying. You seem to be
saying that humans are machines too. That's debatable. In this context,
we're talking about artificial intelligence which does not apply to humans.
---In [email protected], <anartaxius@...> wrote :
Of course we can. The query to be answered is whether it is worth the
computing time and the bother ofimplementation.
---In [email protected], <jr_esq@...> wrote :
One machine said NO...which is correct. It's database was based on movie
scripts. But if the database included philosophical and ethics discussions,
the machine could have gotten the correct answer from those discussions. Even
if it got the correct answer, the machine still does not know what it said.
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